Hi all,

Saw this on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1989-...QQcmdZViewItem

Canadian car with current Florida title. Used car trade-in. Supposedly odometer shows 103,000 KMs, but Carfax and Autocheck say otherwise. Previous owner (2nd owner) insists to the dealer that 103,000 is correct. Even still I like the car and may make the dealer an offer. What do you guys think? I know, I know you've all heard that before from noobs like me (Not really such a noob though. I already have an '83 and '84.) A/C inop and it needs window switches. What do you think it's worth? Any opinions good or bad are welcome. Thanks for reading.

-Joe

 

Joe, It looks really clean, are there any more pic's? (Engine, interior, seats).

What do Carfax & Autocheck indicate for mileage?

These are a bit worrying:
And:
And I found this amusing:
Does that mean that if you DO call for a "walk around description" that they WOULD make refunds and price adjustments? (I didn't think so...)

Happy hunting!!

 

the car looks nice I would do a PPI

 

Headlamps appear to be working properly. Looks nice.


Michael

 

Here's the Autocheckreport:

VIN: WP0JB0922KS860296
Year: 1989
Make: Porsche
Model: 928
Style/Body: Coupe 2D
Class: Sport Car - Premium

Engine: 5.0L V8 MPI
Country of Assembly: Germany
Vehicle Age: 19 year(s)
Calculated Owners: 1
Last Reported
Odometer Reading: 144,601
This vehicle's AutoCheck Score
85 out of 34-66

This vehicle qualifies for Buyback Protection
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Title and ProblemCheck: Your vehicle checks out!
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Vehicle Use and EventCheck: Specific vehicle use(s) or events reported
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Title and ProblemCheck AutoCheck your title with TitleCheck.
This car checks out with AutoCheck vehicle history.

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck's database for this 1989 Porsche 928 (WP0JB0922KS860296) shows no negative titles or other problems. When reported to AutoCheck, these events can indicate serious past damage or other significant problems.

0 Problem(s) Reported: 15 Title/Problem areas checked:
No abandoned title record
No damaged title or major damage incident record
No fire damaged title record
No grey market title record
No hail damage title record
No insurance loss title record
No junk or scrapped title record
No manufacturer buyback/lemon title record
No odometer problem title record
No rebuilt/rebuildable title record
No salvage title or salvage auction record
No water damaged title record
No NHTSA crash test record
No frame damage record
No recycling facility record
OdometerCheck
This car checks out with AutoCheck vehicle history.

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck examined the reported odometer readings reported to AutoCheck for this 1989 Porsche 928 (WP0JB0922KS860296) and no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. AutoCheck uses business rules to determine if reported odometer readings are significantly less than previously reported values. Not all reported odometer readings are used. Title and auction events also report odometer tampering or breakage.

0 Problem(s) Reported: Mileage Date Reported
140,000 09/17/2003 Kilometers
144,601 09/29/2003 Kilometers
144,601 12/04/2003 Kilometers
Vehicle Use and EventCheck vehicle history information has been found on this vehicle.
A problem has been found with this vehicle's title.

Information Reported! AutoCheck shows additional information reported to AutoCheck about how this 1989 Porsche 928 (WP0JB0922KS860296)has been used and other events. This includes reported accidents and corrected or duplicate titles and storm area registrations.

0 Event(s) Reported: 6 Vehicle uses checked:
No fleet, rental and/or lease use record
No taxi use record
No police use record
No government use record
No livery use record
No driver education record
1 Event(s) Reported: 9 Vehicle events checked:
No accident record reported through state agencies or independent sources
No corrected title record
No duplicate title record
No emission/safety inspection record
Loan/Lien record(s)
No fire damage incident record
No repossessed record
No theft record
No storm area registration/title record
Full History Here is your full AutoCheck vehicle history report.
Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date: 2008-11-18 17:55:00.765 EST
Vehicle: 1989 Porsche 928 (WP0JB0922KS860296)
Event date Location Odometer reading Data Source Details
11/13/2001 OTTAWA, ON
Motor Vehicle Dept. CANADIAN RENEWAL
09/17/2003 QC
140,000
Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM CANADIAN PROVINCE
CANADIAN RENEWAL
09/29/2003 CANADA
144,601
Auto Auction REPORTED AT AUTO AUCTION
12/04/2003 QC
144,601
Motor Vehicle Dept. ODOMETER READING FROM CANADIAN PROVINCE
CANADIAN RENEWAL
12/08/2003 CHAMPLAIN, NY
US Dept. Of Transportation IMPORTED TO THE US / VEHICLE ORIGINALLY MANUFACTURED FOR NON US MARKET
12/23/2003 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0089492072) (Lien Reported)
12/23/2003 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
12/23/2003 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
01/22/2004 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. TITLE (Title #:0089492072)
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT (Lien Reported)
05/24/2004 CHAMPLAIN, NY
US Dept. Of Transportation PASSED US ROAD INSPECTION / BOND RELEASED
07/07/2004 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
06/30/2005 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
07/03/2006 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
07/02/2007 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT
06/30/2008 WINTER HAVEN, FL
Motor Vehicle Dept. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
EXCLUDED/EXEMPT

At the bottom of the auction is a link to CarFax who's report is not as encouraging as the Autocheck report. The only problems according to the saleperson at the dealership is the A/C not blowing cold and the drivers side window switch doesn't always work. The car is in their shop now being inspected, whatever that means... I'll talk to them tomorrow about a PPI at a local P shop. Thanks for your opinions guys. Keep'em coming!!!

Joe

 

from the pictures the car looks good i would make sure to pull the lower bell housing and have the flex plate clamp loosened unless, you can pry back the crank at the front to check the play.
Pull the dipstick and drip some oil onto a black piece of paper or cardboard and look at it in the sun, if you find metallic particles then there are internal problems.

 

Thanks for the advice. I'll tell them to do it.