Car died today
05-30-2008 | 11:05 PM
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Car died today
Car died today...
at the stoplight in rush our traffic. I thought I was going to get rear ended for sure, but luckily I didn't, the lady right next to me did though
The light turned green, and when I go to give it some gas it just dies.
It seem to crank just fine at first, but only stays running for a couple seconds at most before it wont turn over at all.
I killed the battery in the process too after trying to start for the 30th time, now it only clicks...Tow truck driver tried to jumped it for me after I got home to no avail.Still would not stay running for more than a couple seconds, almost like it was running out of gas
Car got towed to my house, and I'm charging the battery up.
I didn't have time to check the fuel pump relay before it got dark, also thinking it could be the fuel pump.
Any Ideas???
Parker
at the stoplight in rush our traffic. I thought I was going to get rear ended for sure, but luckily I didn't, the lady right next to me did though
The light turned green, and when I go to give it some gas it just dies.
It seem to crank just fine at first, but only stays running for a couple seconds at most before it wont turn over at all.
I killed the battery in the process too after trying to start for the 30th time, now it only clicks...Tow truck driver tried to jumped it for me after I got home to no avail.Still would not stay running for more than a couple seconds, almost like it was running out of gas
Car got towed to my house, and I'm charging the battery up.
I didn't have time to check the fuel pump relay before it got dark, also thinking it could be the fuel pump.
Any Ideas???
Parker
05-30-2008 | 11:19 PM
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Just guessing, but an S4?
You are on the right track checking the relay 1st.
Wifes '90 did that as we were goofing around, relay and jumper (keep one in the car) didn't help and ended up being a bad main pump.
Start there, and let us know what happens.
You are on the right track checking the relay 1st.
Wifes '90 did that as we were goofing around, relay and jumper (keep one in the car) didn't help and ended up being a bad main pump.
Start there, and let us know what happens.
, will let you all know what I find this afternoon...
05-31-2008 | 06:30 PM
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Where are you in VA? There are lots of us lurking around VA. There is a last minute SITM check-up GTG in Fairfax as Im typing, unfortunately I too am stuck at "work".
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05-31-2008 | 06:41 PM
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I threw it into a pile of gravel a few times real hard and a glob of goo oozed out. It worked for another year, and then died it's final death.
05-31-2008 | 09:54 PM
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I'm in the Newport News/ Williamsburg area.
and I'm still looking for the bag of relays the PO had. Might have to make some calls Monday to get one.
Anyone out there have a spare one they want to donate or just let me test out in case I can't find mine???
I keep saying I'm going to get to SITM for sure this time but work seems to always snag me
I didn't work six and a half days a week before this so called recession, seems a little backwards huh...Thanks
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06-01-2008 | 12:07 AM
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Damn....I never thought of this!!!! Do ya think this would work on my transmission???
That's how mine acted when the fuel pump died.
I threw it into a pile of gravel a few times real hard and a glob of goo oozed out. It worked for another year, and then died it's final death.
I threw it into a pile of gravel a few times real hard and a glob of goo oozed out. It worked for another year, and then died it's final death.
06-01-2008 | 12:12 AM
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Before spending money on a relay, pull the relay, jumper between 30 and 87, if car runs, pull jumper and re insert relay. Now if car doesn't run, spend money.
06-01-2008 | 07:24 AM
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I've never "jumpered" a relay, and the #s don't match anything I have. I thought putting in a new one was the only way to test
and I'm typing on half a cup of coffee right now
Thanks
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06-01-2008 | 07:39 AM
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If you look at the relay in-question, it will somewhere have a little wiring diagram on it.
It only inserts one way in the CE board.
Transfer the diagram to the CE board female terminals ---- thats what you jumper.
Take a piece of wire, preferably with spade-ends crimped on.
Insert in the two female terminals that correspond with 30 and 87 on the relay, it bypasses the relay and puts power to that circuit all the time ( test this way, don't leave it and walk away, can operate this way on a limited basis), depending on the circuit.
Always keep a couple of these, and the fuse box diagram, handy.
It only inserts one way in the CE board.
Transfer the diagram to the CE board female terminals ---- thats what you jumper.
Take a piece of wire, preferably with spade-ends crimped on.
Insert in the two female terminals that correspond with 30 and 87 on the relay, it bypasses the relay and puts power to that circuit all the time ( test this way, don't leave it and walk away, can operate this way on a limited basis), depending on the circuit.
Always keep a couple of these, and the fuse box diagram, handy.
06-01-2008 | 07:42 AM
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You can jumper the fuel pump relay (be sure which one it is) with the car off and the key off.
You can hear it run, if it runs, back by the gas tank.
That's how you check the fuel pump and the relay at once.
Be careful, the 30 is direct to the battery, so its hot, don't short on something else under there.
I would not have jumped the car, BTW, be real careful with that, you don't want to FUBAR the electronic brains.
Disconnect the battery, then fully charge it, or put a new one in, before you proceed.
All of what you are facing is likely packed into this board. I've spent at least 2 hrs a night for 8 mos in here reading.
If the S4 is like the older cars, the positive lead on the battery has a smaller positive wire. It feeds the engine managment system. Sometimes it gets corroded and interupts spark essentially. Or your grounds throughout the car (see introductory post) are corroded and you need to hit them with a dremel wire brush. Or, you may have a failed fuel pump. The relay shouldn't have failed while operating, but it is possible.....
You can hear it run, if it runs, back by the gas tank.
That's how you check the fuel pump and the relay at once.
Be careful, the 30 is direct to the battery, so its hot, don't short on something else under there.
I would not have jumped the car, BTW, be real careful with that, you don't want to FUBAR the electronic brains.
Disconnect the battery, then fully charge it, or put a new one in, before you proceed.
All of what you are facing is likely packed into this board. I've spent at least 2 hrs a night for 8 mos in here reading.
If the S4 is like the older cars, the positive lead on the battery has a smaller positive wire. It feeds the engine managment system. Sometimes it gets corroded and interupts spark essentially. Or your grounds throughout the car (see introductory post) are corroded and you need to hit them with a dremel wire brush. Or, you may have a failed fuel pump. The relay shouldn't have failed while operating, but it is possible.....
06-01-2008 | 12:57 PM
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Landsteer, thank you for the info.
Electrician bud of mine is going to help me out this evening.
So I'll know the relay is bad If I hear the fuel pump cut on when I jumper it
When I get below a 1/4 tank my pumps pretty noisy anyway so it should be easy to hear.
No fuel pump noise means that I'll be spending my refund check on something besides that new mtn bike I was looking at...
Thanks Again
P.
Electrician bud of mine is going to help me out this evening.
So I'll know the relay is bad If I hear the fuel pump cut on when I jumper it
When I get below a 1/4 tank my pumps pretty noisy anyway so it should be easy to hear.No fuel pump noise means that I'll be spending my refund check on something besides that new mtn bike I was looking at...
Thanks Again
P.