Anyone running an 18 with an et50 offset on the front?
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Anyone running an 18 with an et50 offset on the front?
Andrews calculator says a 50 offset on the front isn't recommended although it does fit? On a 18" x 7.5" what problems would it cause?
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It will stick out beyond the fender, and possibly foul the fender arch. It is somewhat dependent on the width of the wheel where teh wider teh wheel, the more critical the offset is. With a 7.5" wheel it will probably be fine, but the car's handling characteristics will be somewhat different from stock as reported by many - with tramlining the major complaint.
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I have that same set up on my S-4. Fronts are 225x40x18 with a 7.5 Sport Designwheel (50mm) offset I've had them for several years with out any issues
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225s are the max for the 50 ET on 7.5s. Any larger would rub. Alignment specs are borderline, too.
Here is my '86.5 with 7.5/9 twists.
Here is my '86.5 with 7.5/9 twists.
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I run 19x8 et57mm w/235/35/19 up front (1980 Euro).
stock ride height, factory spec alignment (done correctly), Bilsteins/Eibachs-----no issues.
no tramlining, no rubbing, no crazy steering----goes around corners like it's on a rail.
you should have no issues with anything smaller-
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stock ride height, factory spec alignment (done correctly), Bilsteins/Eibachs-----no issues.
no tramlining, no rubbing, no crazy steering----goes around corners like it's on a rail.
you should have no issues with anything smaller-
--R
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I have exactly that size and offset on my S2....
Only problem is that centre caps will NOT fit any more...not EVER lol
A little more tram lining but with 10 inch backs as well , I expected that...
No arch or wing problems as long as only 225/40/18 tyre...245/40/18 WILL NOT FIT (Cannot turn wheels more than around a 1/4 of lock)
All the best Brett
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Start with the correct offset wheels on, find a piece of road with no
kerb and grass at the side of the tarmac (and nothing solid near).
Drive along with the inside wheels on the grass. Apply the brakes
(moderately) and feel how easy it is to keep the car going straight.
Repeat with heavier braking if you feel confident. It would be ideal if
you had a G meter in the car to measure how hard you were braking, a
pendulum against a card marked off at various angles would do, but you
would need a passenger to watch it.
Then put the incorrect offset wheels on and repeat, again starting at a
low speed and gentle braking.
What I would expect you to find is that with the incorrect offset wheels
you will feel much more pull from he steering wheel, and that the
maximum you will want to brake will be much less.
Let us know how you get on.
I know of someone here in NZ who had incorrect 17" wheels on, and ended
up going off the road, through a fence, and into a tree (I think).
Certainly the car was a write-off. The driver, and someone else who
looked at the road couldn't possibly see how he had lost it there.
Perhaps if he had the correct offset wheels it wouldn't have happened?
I once was forced to put the left wheels off the road by an oncoming
truck (on a narrow road), and had to brake at the same time because I
was approaching a narrow bridge downhill. I know that in any other car I
would have had to fight to keep the car going where I wanted to as I
cautiously increased the brake pedal pressure. In the 928, it did all
the work for me, and I put that down to having the correct wheel offsets
and hence the correct negative scrub radius.
Smiffy
kerb and grass at the side of the tarmac (and nothing solid near).
Drive along with the inside wheels on the grass. Apply the brakes
(moderately) and feel how easy it is to keep the car going straight.
Repeat with heavier braking if you feel confident. It would be ideal if
you had a G meter in the car to measure how hard you were braking, a
pendulum against a card marked off at various angles would do, but you
would need a passenger to watch it.
Then put the incorrect offset wheels on and repeat, again starting at a
low speed and gentle braking.
What I would expect you to find is that with the incorrect offset wheels
you will feel much more pull from he steering wheel, and that the
maximum you will want to brake will be much less.
Let us know how you get on.
I know of someone here in NZ who had incorrect 17" wheels on, and ended
up going off the road, through a fence, and into a tree (I think).
Certainly the car was a write-off. The driver, and someone else who
looked at the road couldn't possibly see how he had lost it there.
Perhaps if he had the correct offset wheels it wouldn't have happened?
I once was forced to put the left wheels off the road by an oncoming
truck (on a narrow road), and had to brake at the same time because I
was approaching a narrow bridge downhill. I know that in any other car I
would have had to fight to keep the car going where I wanted to as I
cautiously increased the brake pedal pressure. In the 928, it did all
the work for me, and I put that down to having the correct wheel offsets
and hence the correct negative scrub radius.
Smiffy
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I run 8" fronts with ET50 on my car (PO fitted), with 235/40/17 rubber on the front and it rubs at full-lock.
Annoyingly the 17x9.5 rears are ET60.. annoying because I can't find any for sale to fit a pair to the front end.
I'll be going with some Carrera III's when I'm due for new tires.
Annoyingly the 17x9.5 rears are ET60.. annoying because I can't find any for sale to fit a pair to the front end.
I'll be going with some Carrera III's when I'm due for new tires.
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I'm using a set of 7.5 X 18 et 50 Design Sport (like those shown above) with 235/40 Michelin Pilot Sport 2's on the front of my '94 GTS. No problems, drives as well as it does with the OE 7.5 et 65 Cup II weels. No tramlining, etc., and I am pleasantly surprised, as I've driven S4's with the 7" et 50 front twist wheels, and I thought the driveability was significantly poorer. I have 9" et 52 rears with 275/35 PS-2's. When the wheel is turned to lock left, there is a slight rubbing of the rt front tire. Never turn the wheel that far, so it hasn't been a problem.
Gary Knox
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Would it be possible to machine off some of the inside part of an et50 wheel to get a better offset, moving the wheel in a bit? Go from ET50 to ET65 maybe? Would that be 15mm, about 1/2 inch?
Would this be inadvisable?
Would this be inadvisable?
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Measure the amount of metal between the lug and the hub face. Every wheel I own (about 20 sets of Porsche wheels) the total area is 1/2" at the most, some are less.
Even if you were to take a 50mm to a 55mm you would be removing almost half the material.