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Old 05-01-2008, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
The only way to climb into a Countach (or most Itilian cars) without looking like a dork is *** first, swing the feet in. I find even the 928 is easier to enter using the method.
You may not look graceful, but at least you look like you know what you are doing

heck this one is easier than a Lambo!
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Remove the sunroof mechanism. This of course requires that the sunroof (I got a custom-made moonroof) be fixed in the "close position". Gained nearly 2-inch of headroom. Really made a big difference in the actual and felt headroom.

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Hi,

Thank you very much for the inputs.

Update !!!! I am 6.6 tall and fits a 928 S4 without sunroof perfectly.
In my "ideal" sitting position in a 928 S4 with sunroof my hair touches the roof. I assume, or actually pretty sure, that the seats are in it's lowest position.

I think that the extra inch gained by moving the seats to rearmost mounting holes, could solve this for me ???
Is it easy to identify and do the "fix". Something I should know or be aware of ???


3. Modify stock seat: cut mounting rails down, cut down the seat foam on both the seat bottom and seat back. Somehow re-adjust the leather (I would think it would be very difficult to do this). If you go this route, as someone else suggested, buy another one and modify that one, leave the original as is in case you ever sell the 928.
NeverLateInMyNineTwoEight !
Cutting down the mounting rails !!!!! do you have some sort of illustration or picture that shows exact where to cut ??? (do the modification)

Thanks again

I will keep your posted.
Maybe I should just go for a 928 S4 without sunroof. The problem is that I then have to go to Germany or Sweden and find one.

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Originally Posted by markusnolff
Remove the sunroof mechanism. This of course requires that the sunroof (I got a custom-made moonroof) be fixed in the "close position". Gained nearly 2-inch of headroom. Really made a big difference in the actual and felt headroom.

MN
Could you post a picture of this interesting solution.
Can you rebuild it back to original ???
Do I need to buy a new intenior for the roof ???

Thank


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Old 05-02-2008, 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by astvic
Maybe I should just go for a 928 S4 without sunroof. The problem is that I then have to go to Germany or Sweden and find one.

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When I was looking I wanted 4 things.. no sunroof, manual gearbox, digital dash, and any colour except red, grey or black.

After test-driving a bunch of auto cars with sunroofs, I realised pretty quickly that "no sunroof" was just as important to me as "manual gearbox". The other things I could sacrifice on and not regret it.

Keep looking - as you're near Europe, you have a good selection of well maintained 928's available without sunroof.. its much easier to find there than in USA or Australia
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Originally Posted by astvic
Hi,

Thank you very much for the inputs.

Update !!!! I am 6.6 tall and fits a 928 S4 without sunroof perfectly.
In that case I would think that the seat all-the-way back and possible dished wheel should work (with back down and front up), unless you have disproportionately short arms.

In my "ideal" sitting position in a 928 S4 with sunroof my hair touches the roof. I assume, or actually pretty sure, that the seats are in it's lowest position.

I think that the extra inch gained by moving the seats to rearmost mounting holes, could solve this for me ???
Is it easy to identify and do the "fix". Something I should know or be aware of ???
There is one 8mm allen bolt at the front of the seat track and two at the back. I would recommend an impact gun to remove them because after 20+ years, they don't want to come out. Lots of people have trouble with these stripping out. Once you get in there you'll see how it comes apart and goes back together, you just have to pick the next set of holes back.
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I added about 1-1.5" of headroom by modifying the seat mounting rails. Not the rails that attach to the seat but the rails that are part of the floor.

This isn't for the faint of heart and does require cutting and welding but it worked in my car (1981-manual seats). I'm not sure you could get away with this if you have power seats.

Just another option..
Old 05-02-2008, 11:58 AM
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For you Momo wheel guys:
Ebay Momo Hub Spacer

I just installed it on my Momo at Hershey. 6 Allen bolts to detach old wheel. 6 included long bolts to re-attach spacer+steering wheel.
Did unplug battery cause those horn leads will activate whenever it grounds to the wheel frame.
No association with seller. Just glad their selling them.
Will mean a slightly longer reach to the indicator/wiper stalks.


Hardcore 928 owners hack a spinal vertebrea or two to fit in a 928.
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Originally Posted by astvic
I think that the extra inch gained by moving the seats to rearmost mounting holes, could solve this for me ???
I don't believe you will get an inch from moving the seats to the rearmost mounting holes. I think its more like 1/2". I could be wrong, but when I moved mine, it hardly made a difference at all.

It's worth doing, but don't expect a huge difference.
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Originally Posted by astvic
NeverLateInMyNineTwoEight !
Cutting down the mounting rails !!!!! do you have some sort of illustration or picture that shows exact where to cut ??? (do the modification)
Sorry, I don't have any information on this. I have just heard of other's mentioning it. When I changed out my seat, I took a look at underseat structure, and the structure of the seat rails that are on the floor, and decided it would be too much work, and would be almost impossible to put the car back to stock without doing a huge amount of work.
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Originally Posted by astvic
Maybe I should just go for a 928 S4 without sunroof. The problem is that I then have to go to Germany or Sweden and find one.
That is what I would do.

For my next 928, I will be looking for a sunroof delete 85-88, but it is unlikely I will find one here in the US, so I will end up putting in some nice Recaro or Sparco seats. The Sparco A4 comes in black Alcantra, so I will be getting those for the S4.
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Originally Posted by Mike Frye
In that case I would think that the seat all-the-way back and possible dished wheel should work (with back down and front up), unless you have disproportionately short arms.
That is my exact arrangement and I barely fit, its not real comfortable. Aftermarket seats to get me even lower is the only way for me - or sunroof delete of course.

The Sparco fixed back racing seat is night and day. I can sit much more upright, I can adjust the leg room just the way I like it, and the shifter and steering wheel (deeply dished Momo) fall right to hand. I love it! I can't believe I didn't do this mod sooner.

But, as I mentioned, getting in and out of the race seat is a real pain, and the Momo steering wheel looks a bit low-brow. I'll be replacing the Momo with something a bit more inline with the 928 interior.

And just for reference, I'm 6'6". 36" arms. 36" inseam. Currently 210 lbs or so.
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Originally Posted by NeverLateInMyNineTwoEight
That is what I would do.

For my next 928, I will be looking for a sunroof delete 85-88, <snip>.
Blasphemy! There is a world of difference between the 85-86 and the S4s. How could you just lump them all together like that?!?!

They should have broke the mold after the '85 5-Speed was made. It just doesn't get any better!


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