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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 02:17 PM
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Hi all,
I bought a pair of used locks for my 86, they came from an 87 but look to be the same. My goal is to either replace the broken parts in my locks with parts from these, or rekey these locks to my car. I do not offhand see how to disassemble the lock clyinder, does anyone know how to get started? These are alarm key locks from an 87 S4, going into an 86.

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 02:33 PM
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jFramh, which locks are you refering to. The rear or the doors? As for the doors I do know how to get to the locks. I just replaced my broken door handle on the inside of the door. Start by taking off the inside of the door. The plastic part around the door handle on the inside will have a phillips head screw that you will see once you pull the handle as though you were to open the door (on a 1982). Next remove the peice that is above the armrest. Pull toward you and then slide up. After this get a 10mm socket. Open the map door on the armrest. Two 10mm there with plastic covers. Then I think that there are three more 10mm behind the peice that was above the armrest. And notice that one is longer than the others. The last one is behind the cover that air travels through when the door is shut. Now my inside door panel was also screwed in on the bottom to the door. I do not think that this is mormal. The whole thing I think is just held on by plactic friction pins. Start at the bottom and see if you can pull it free. <img src="graemlins/yltype.gif" border="0" alt="[typing]" /> I will not go any further unless you want me to. Remember it is eaiser to get to the lock assemble with the window in the down posistion. E-mail me back on the board for further destructions. <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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I am interested in how to disassemble the locks themselves. Got yours apart yet, Randy?

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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Sorry, I meant the door locks. I have already removed the driver's side lock, it wasn't too hard thanks to the detailed FAQ on removing the door panel.

There are a couple of very small pins in the lock body I am tempted to drive out, they are the only fasteners I see. Looks like if I drive them out they will end up inside where the key goes.

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Old Nov 5, 2002 | 07:36 PM
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Perhaps this will help Joel:

<a href="http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/mult_lock_rekey/mult_lock_rekey.htm" target="_blank">http://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/mult_lock_rekey/mult_lock_rekey.htm</a>


Just received the rekeying kit yesterday Anthony. Lots of little bits in there. I'm planning on doing both doors and the trunk - currently one key is for the doors, one for the trunk and one for the ignition/gas cap/glove box lock.

Whenever I'm carrying my wad of keys in a social setting, invariably some woman will quip 'Is that a rabbit in your pocket, or are you just happy to see me?' Makes for a good conversation-starter!

I'll drop you a line after I'm done Anthony - should be plenty of parts left. Perhaps we can split the final auction price if you're still interested.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:01 AM
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Thanks Randy,
I'm still interested.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 01:34 AM
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I just got back from Fort Jefferson...

-Where I swam past a barracuda about 5 feet long.


Apperently, he was the OWNER of the east coaling station of the ancient fort. I was snorkelling. I uhmm....swam away!

In any case, I have a tendency to "jump into" the waters when I encounter something new. I've had problems with 2/3 of my locks on my SHARK&gt;&gt;

Well, if you pull the lock cylinder out, you might be worried by what you see, but I've yanked mine numerous times and I can tell you that the level of complication here is nothing compared to the fuel injection! It is just simple metal parts.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 12:28 PM
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Randy, thanks, but that link does not have a procedure for the later 928 locks

Normy, have you rekeyed your locks? If so, how do you get the lock apart? I have the lock assembly in hand but do not see any obvious way to pull it apart.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Joel-

I have indeed rekeyed one of my locks. In this case, it was the hatch.

The secret here is the set pins that hold the whole thing together. These are the little dimples that you see when you examine the side of the cylinder near where the key enters. There is a black shroud around this portion, and a pair of small silver dots exist on both sides of the lock. You have to push these in- I put an old t-shirt on the garage floor, laid the lock on top of it, and using a tiny screwdriver and a small hammer, tapped these in about 1/2 of a millimeter. This allows the black shroud to come off and the whole assembly then comes apart in your hand. Now all you have to do is arrange the little tumbler "plates" [this will all become self-evident when you get to this point....] to match the ones on your original lock.

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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:34 PM
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Thanks! I was going to try that, hoping it was the correct thing to do. It's very encouraging to know it is.

I will post when I have results.
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Old Nov 16, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Well, I'm stumped in attempting to remove the tumbler from the trunk lock mechanism in order to rekey the lock.

I tried Normy's suggestion of tapping in the side pins, but that didn't allow the tumbler to pull out, though I was able to remove the 'shroud'.

I then found this (scroll down to the 4th or 5th article):

<a href="http://home.attbi.com/~slyjay/Page6.html" target="_blank">http://home.attbi.com/~slyjay/Page6.html</a>

which says to drill out the pins. I did that but still coudn't pull the tumbler out - though it continued to turn freely with the key.

It seems that the tumbler may be attached to the latch mechanism within the sealed assembly.

Any suggestions?
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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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I have not done the trunk lock, but I did have to drill out the pins for the door locks. I replaced the pins with setscews, I think I used 6-32's. I chucked the setscrews into the drill and ground the threads off the bottom 1.5mm to make them fit the old pin groove and operate smoothly.

I had to lever the old lock cyinders out, they did not easily drop out because of the pressure from the plates and springs. I used a small screwdriver to press them out a little ways, I pried in the area where the little ball mount would have been if it hadn't broken off. Since I have not seen the trunk lock I cannot say where you might pry on that guy. You might be able to hook something just inside the keyhole.

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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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Thanks Joel.

Anyone BTDT on the trunk lock?
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