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Old 06-10-2003 | 06:27 PM
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I've only had my shark for about three weeks so I haven't had that many fillups yet, but here's what appears to be happening...

When full, the gauge only reads 3/4 full. Then, the gauge goes down at a reasonable rate. The gauge goes past empty at about 160-180 miles (city driving) and the fuel empty light came on at about 210 miles. When I filled at approx 220 miles I put about 20 gallons.

I've read a couple good threads on gas gauge/fuel sending unit, but my symptoms are slightly different and I'm not sure what to pursue. Since I put in 20+ gallons, I don't think I have a kink in the fill hose. And since the gauge goes down right away, I don't think fuel level sensor is 'sticking' at the top. Is it possible there is something wrong at the 'gauge side'?
Old 06-10-2003 | 06:43 PM
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Perx,

I have the exact same thing happen to my shark. It takes around 15 gallons or so to fill up. Never goes past the 3/4 mark.

This is way, way down the list of things to fix on the shark. How can all of us have kinked hoses?

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Old 06-10-2003 | 06:56 PM
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Mine never goes past 3/4 either when I fill it up. I've just accepted it. I have bigger projects to tackle first.

I can say though, that since buying the car last October, the gauge reads just a hair more each time I fill up the tank. At this rate, by the year 2008 the gauge should read full.
Old 06-10-2003 | 07:29 PM
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Add me to the "me too" list. The gas gauge in my '88 S4, even after the tank is completely full, never reads more than 3/4 full. I just drive it until the gauge is below the bottom mark, then fill 'er up. Like others, I have many other projects to do first -- motor mounts, steering rack boots, tie rods, oil pan gasket, cam cover gaskets, front tires, intake and cam cover powdercoat, A/C conversion, etc. Someday, I'll be able to just wash it and drive it.
Old 06-10-2003 | 07:36 PM
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I just filled up. It was 15 gallons. Can everyone else post what it takes so that will help us all trouble shoot it alittle.

I'm really jealous of Perx. I wish my sharks biggest thorn was the fuel gauge bug and not brakes, water pump, TB, thermostat, etc ... Needs to be replaced.

I suppose Perx also has the front spoiler with no damage too!

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Old 06-10-2003 | 08:03 PM
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Alas,
If the gauge is reading properly -not sure about you 20 gal fill-up guy''s- Ed, Wally, Dennis and many others have posted replies to this gremlin.
Greg Nichols site:
<a href="http://nichols.nu/tips.com" target="_blank">http://nichols. nu/tips.com</a>
has , I believe at least two, possibly three quick resolutions to the problem.
Some of them described by the folks above.
If you do some serious archive digging -change parameter from last 120 day's to ALL the same stuff can be found. Along with the dreaded gas fume smell in the garage cure.
HTH
Old 06-10-2003 | 08:12 PM
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I have this issue as well. I replaced the sending unit in the tank to no avail. I understand this is a pretty common problem with the VDO's and is related to a resistor in the gauge. Another electrical issue in a 928???....go figure. If you let the gauge ride down all the way to the bottom, it will stay there for a while and the low fuel light will come on. Thankfully, the low fuel sensor doesn't seem to be affected by the gauge problem. I seem to remember that there's 5 gals left at that point although I may be optimistic. The owner's manual will tell you for sure.

I hear the only solution is taking the pod apart and fixing the gauge / resistor.

rotsa ruck Rorge,
Old 06-10-2003 | 08:15 PM
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If your tank holds less than 20 gallons (plus 2 gallons reserve), the plastic gas tank has probably collapsed due to inadequate venting of the tank.

This is a fairly common problem.
Old 06-10-2003 | 08:17 PM
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And the cure is?
Nichols site
Old 06-10-2003 | 08:30 PM
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If your tank holds less than 20 gallons (plus 2 gallons reserve), the plastic gas tank has probably collapsed due to inadequate venting of the tank.

This is a fairly common problem


So its normal then?
Old 06-10-2003 | 08:30 PM
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Okay, don't flame me...too much. I cheated, when I replaced the odometer gear recently, I pulled the gas gauge needle off and repositioned it upwards a bit. Goes all the way to full now and, holds 11+ gallons at the 1/2 mark. Flame on!

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Old 06-10-2003 | 08:35 PM
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the fuel lever sender is a simple float which slides up and down a long loop of wire . The float completes a circuit . The shorter the circuit the less resistance the higher the gauge reads . When the float hits bottom it completes a different circuit and turns on the warning light . Corrosion on the wires or connectors increases the resistance and gives an incorrect low reading . The inability to fill the tank is a different issue . The tank is shaped like a tea pot with a spout . You add fuel in the spout BUT the spout attaches near the bottom of the tank so a large bubble of air would be trapped except for the fact that there is a hose attached to the top of the main body which passes through a hole in the chassis before attaching to the top of the spout . This hose vents the air bubble . If the tank has been removed the hose may be improperly routed (pinched) and prevent the escape of the air .
Old 06-10-2003 | 08:38 PM
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Thanks for the responses everyone. OK, newbie mistake--should have checked Nichols first! I feel I have the guidence I needed. I'm going to check the voltage maybe just move the fuel gauge needle if all checks out.

Thanks everyone!
Old 06-10-2003 | 08:48 PM
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Tom King, sounds like your problem is the vent hose.

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