KraigG

I've noticed a lot of differences on the 928s, even those of the same year. For instance: Mine has a sort of tufted leather seat pattern, though pictures of early cars show a kind of psychedelic pattern on the seats and door panels.

I also have a 4 spoke, square horn-buttoned steering wheel that looks like it came out of a Cadillac, and my manual shows a nice 3 spoke wheel with a round center.

My car has a "manhole cover" type wheel, yet I've seen my year (1980) with the "phone dial" wheel that I think looks so period correct.

What is correct for my car? Or were these choices the original owner could have made at the time of purchase? And where can I get a nice set of 16 inch phone dial wheels?

Nicole

The more info you provide about your car, the more precise we can answer your questions.

Is it a Euro or US model?

What are the option codes, if any? (see sticker under trunk mat)

Does it have the factory's competition package with front and rear spoilers, upgraded front brakes, dish wheels, and protective side strips (aka side moldings)?

Also you can do a search here on differences between the various models - it's been written about quite often, and you might already get some of your questions answered that way.

Good night!

Mike Frye

Hey Kraig, Welcome!

Nicole and the rest of our sponsors are very knowledgeable and helpful here on the 'list. As she mentioned, the search button will help you find some background information because some things get covered a lot and you will go a long way toward making friends with the regulars by checking stuff out first, then posting if it's still not clear.

I'm still a noob here, and I can tell you that some of my early posts were VERY rudimentary and the experts were extremely patient and helpful. They all love a good discussion about the cars and are very willing to accept new people.

Having said all that, I can see what you're asking and in fact, I think you'll find a lot of what you're looking for in the Wikipedia article about the 928. I think it lists the different models and the things that changed between them. The earlier models had some things that were optional but later became standard (as you'll find in most cars). I'm also a fan of the phone dial wheels, check out 928 International (one of the sponsors here) they're in CA and can provide LOTS of great new and used stuff like that.

Good luck!

Hilton

What's correct depends on what your car is

Being a 1980, its one of 3 things..

US/Canada car 928 or 928s (4.5 litre L-jet fuel inj 220hp)
Rest of World 928 (4.5 litre K-jet 230hp)
Rest of World 928S (4.7litre k-jet 300hp )

I might be wrong, but I think the 928S models got manhole covers, and the 928 vanilla had phone dials?

Vilhuer

Early S could have either 7x16 phones of 7x16 flat disks. IIRR when ROW 4.5L model was dropped at end of '82 MY also phone dial option ended for S. This would make sense as ROW 4.5L manual cars had phones as standard and once its production stopped and US models became S in '83 MY too there were no need for old style wheels.

Jim bailey - 928 International

Many early cars like your 1980 got "updated" to the S wheels. Your seats have possibly been recovered the originals would have been worn. We often have take off wheels having taken over 600 cars apart.

pscottjr

So if I see an early Euro on the side of the road with phone dials it is probably a 4.5L? The Euro "S" would have the 4.7L and would probaly have the "manhole" (dish) wheels.

I know that maybe a generalization but, I like being able to tell the difference between models.

Edit: I have reread what was said. I guess that if I saw a 1981 Euro on the road with phone dials that it does not mean that it has a 4.5L in it. It could have the 4.7L.

PorKen

The 'Competition Group' wasn't available until '81, AFAIK.

Do the rims look like these? They are early 6" wide 931 rims, which were on a '80 junker I had for a short while. There was even a matching sticker on the gas door. Note the extra round hole for the air fill.


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KraigG

Yes, my rims look exactly like that, except for the air fill holes. I have to assume, also, that my car is a US model: it has a non-working 85 mph speedo, no spoilers, no sunroof, no body side moldings.

bronto

The easiest way of identifying a Euro model is sidemarkers behind the front wheels. The photo above is not a Euro. The other things you mention (besides the 85 mph speedo) have no relation to US vs. Euro. So sunroof and no moldings are very good things, IMHO. Many people go to pains to remove them.

KraigG

That's gotta be some major surgery to remove a sunroof!!!!

bronto

Here's one example:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...sunroof+delete

Shark Attack

here is a great website for each model
http://www.928s4vr.com/

toofer

I have a 80S euro with the competition package, were you taking about the US models not having it till 81?

Vilhuer

ROW cars never have competition package as S model has spoilers as stock while 4.5L ROW never has them.