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Old 02-26-2008, 08:28 PM
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Default Welding / Disconnect Brain?

Have read quite a bit about this in archives; no concensus.

Tommorow, or Thursday at latest, will have car at shop / some exhaust welding / some brackets to body. Don't want fried brain.

I plan to advise these guys to disconnect negative battery cable.

Should I also unplug brain at passenger footwell?

Enough?
Old 02-26-2008, 08:30 PM
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For the couple of minutes it takes do it. Unplug brain.
Old 02-26-2008, 08:35 PM
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Isn't welding just a rapid fire exchange of electricity creating extreme heat and fusion?
What could it possibly hurt if your brain had a few stray pulses
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It's the huge voltage and amperage
Old 02-26-2008, 08:54 PM
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Disconnect the battery and both brains for surity.............if you need convincing check out the price of replacement.
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YES, DISCONNECT BOTH COMPUTERS and BATTERY..!!


In the process of welding, when the arc is first struck, there is a LARGE voltage spike, and that spike can kill computers, as well as relays, motors, servos, etc, etc
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Make Darn Sure that the welder's ground clamp is on the metal he/she is welding, and put it close to where they are welding. Don't let them attach the clamp to frame ground, since the return path will be through the engine and the engine ground cable.
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Thanks. I'll pull most of the relays as well.
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Originally Posted by Landseer
Thanks. I'll pull most of the relays as well.
You don't have to pull the relays. Trust me. Most folks here talk about welding on a 928, I'm one of very few who have actually done it. Leave the relays in place and disconnect the brain. Because I had such a hard time diagnosing a defective LH as the source of my problems last year, I went so far as to remove it from the car before welding. If that makes you sleep better then go for it. But don't pull all relays. Also have them disconnect the battery.
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Dis the -ve to the battery and take the brains with you when you leave the car. they can push it around the shop.

If your car has the expensive headlight relay I'ld be tempted to remove that as well.

$ paranoia is the reasoning behind my comments - no real sound engineering or science
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I have worked in a shop where a customer car was towed in for "no-start".....after long testing process (with several calls to the owner) found that the car had come from a body shop where they had TIG welded a crack in a front fender, without disconnecting the battery or the computers.
Both brains were damaged.
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I dodged a bullet when I had the plates for the six point harness welded to the floor and also when the eye bolts were welded to the bar bewtween the rear shock mounts. Just another in the long list of the stupid things I've done.
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Car is done and back home. Thanks for the advice on the disconnect points.

Pure excellence from the shop. Older gentlemen was a craftsman with the exhaust. When I came to pick up the car he told me he unplugged the brain and disconnected the battery, plus grounded his MIG on his work just like I'd asked.

I had left the relays, but worried all afternoon about it.

(Sounds very good, exactly like I wanted, would change nothing. Dual in/out cat, dual magnaflows, final dual in/out magnaflow. He ran the mid mufflers just a little lower than some of you guys have, but it created great space for the rest of the pipes.)
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Oops, read this too late. Took the S4 in to have a small bit of welding done near a lower front suspension pickup point. After the repair the S4 starts OK but has very low power, can barely keep up with the traffic, moves off the mark at glacial pace and has harsh gearchanges. I drove it home but now suspect fried brains. The exhaust smells like mineral turpentine. I think this is the begining of a learning experience. Just have to find some brains locally to swap and check.
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Originally Posted by Paul Dortkamp
Oops, read this too late. Took the S4 in to have a small bit of welding done near a lower front suspension pickup point. After the repair the S4 starts OK but has very low power, can barely keep up with the traffic, moves off the mark at glacial pace and has harsh gearchanges. I drove it home but now suspect fried brains. The exhaust smells like mineral turpentine. I think this is the begining of a learning experience. Just have to find some brains locally to swap and check.
Sounds exactly like my symptoms when I left a coil wire loose.....


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