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Old 06-06-2003 | 02:06 PM
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I replaced my torn up rear thermostat seal and now my car SEEMS to run cooler on the dash temp gauge. I don't understand why this would be so even though others have noted the same thing. Can any one explain?
Old 06-06-2003 | 02:45 PM
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Ernest...you are opening a can of worms here! Thermostat operation is going to open the debate floodgates...AND - I am SURE many will disagree with me...BUT (or in my case - from an earlier problem and post..."Butt Plug" -&gt; see this post... <a href="http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=004872#000003" target="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/forums/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=14;t=004872#000003</a>

Simply - the sharks tstat works (sorta) in reverse...so - having the rear seal leaking causes a 'partially open' situation...allowing some coolant to bypass the engine and go back to the rad. (if the tstat is gone - everything goes thru the backside - effectively bypassing the engine and circulating thru the rad - conversely - with the rear 'butt plugged' and no tstat - it creates an alway open cooling system...constantly curculating the coolant thru the engine and back to the rad).

So - when you replaced the seal - you stopped the leaking. Now when your tstat is closed - it is not 'losing' the bypass of the proper flow...

I THINK....DAMMIT...this dang cooling theory give me headaches...it is kinda like thinking about "Infinity" too much!

Just click on that link I put in at the beginning - it will answer ALL your questions...and confuse the $hit out of you at the same time!!

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Old 06-06-2003 | 04:43 PM
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Mark,
Thanks, I think.
Bottom line, it works.
Old 06-06-2003 | 05:54 PM
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Hey Ernest,

I actually just replaced mine last week after a battle with a cooling problem where it would heat up on the move and actually cool down a little when I stopped and this $15.00 little part (which was replaced after pulling the radiator to have it tested and many other things checked) made all the difference in the world. I have an electric fan hooked up to a switch and at night I hardly ever have to turn it on unless I am sitting still for a long time.

If only I would have done this when I did the thermostat, but mine was down to just metal and I didn't even realize it was there.
Old 06-06-2003 | 06:30 PM
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When the thermostat seals against the seat, all the water is sent through the radiator instead of recirculating through the block. This is why you cannot run without a thermostat. My seat is toast but the last time I was in there, I couldn't get the old one out and didn't want to damage the housing until I found out how. My car runs cool but I will be interested to see how much difference it makes after I replace it.
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Old 06-06-2003 | 07:06 PM
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Removing the inner seal can be a bit of a challenge. I used a 3' nail with the pointy end bent 270 degrees and with a pair of vice-grips to hold the nail, I pulled the edge upward. It worked well, and without scoring the casting.
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Interesting. I took a peek at mine, since it it out, and found no inner seal at all. Should my older model have one?
Old 06-06-2003 | 09:19 PM
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Cobey - No, the older models don't have them.
Old 06-06-2003 | 09:22 PM
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Thanks Steve!
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Cobey:
<strong>Interesting. I took a peek at mine, since it it out, and found no inner seal at all. Should my older model have one?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Cobie,
The rubber seat was introduced from the 1984 model - Before there is only a alu-seat, but this can corrode, and then you have an even bigger problem! <img border="0" alt="[byebye]" title="" src="graemlins/wave.gif" />



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