diego-ted

I am really getting tired of this 87S4, I just spent a couple of grand getting rid of Oil leaks up top. Then I spend $700 on transmission hoses. Next day I got a transmission leak. My Mech. says the new trans hoses made one of the ones that wasn't leaking leak. Now he want to replace them all, How many is there??? he says Six.
This is not the time of year I need this Shi**
diego-ted

goodspeed928

HA, 2K to fix a oil leak up top?
I did all, (all) my seals up top for 400!
As for the the tans go's did that 2 years ago
and that was 235.

Someone is getting RICH!
SORRY

Mike LaBranche

Every time you fix something on a 928 (or pretty much anything else mechanical) the next weakest link in the chain rears it's head. Fix that one... another further down the line appears. Overhaul the tranny so it's back to spec. and the cv's go from the strain. Or wheel bearings after ball joints. Or TT after fresh clutch. It's a real bitch staying ahead of the curve.

But... once you track down and kill all the show stoppers, and stay on top of preventative maintenance... the beast will reward you.

I think I'd consider looking around for another 928 wrench that can provide you with the whole solution at once rather than the hoop and fire dance you're putting up with now. You can get alot of the hoses used from the big 3 at substantial savings over new. If you're not a do-it-yourselfer, you have to have an experienced guy working on these pigs. Your current shop may have simply botched the previous reassembly. It's possible that disassembly, cleaning, reassembly to spec, fresh fluids will cure your leaks. Try dino fluid instead of synthetic. Less prone to leak.

We feel your pain. Hang in there, get it right, drive it every chance you get.

Randy V

Mike, I think you have crystalized an aspect of the 928 experience we all can relate to!

Welcome aboard Ted.

By your forum name, would you happen to be in San Diego?

If so, what shop are you using?

RichieP

I count 5. 1 line from transmission to rear of engine just above cats. 1 from rear of engine to lower radiator inlet. 1 from top of radiator to aux cooler. 1 from aux cooler back to rear of engine. 1 from rear of engine back to transmission. It's possible one of the two lines in the front section of the car could be 2 seperate lines but I don't think so. I replace the 2 long ones (trans to rear of engine) and 1 short one from top of rad to aux cooler for about $75. If you find a shop that does hydraulic work they can replace the flex hose for alot less than replacing the whole line (unless of course the metal line is damaged). I also had to rebuild a leaking P/S rack, replace a leaking oil pan gasket and blown motor mounts so I understand your frustration with leaks. Just hang in there. My car's been out of commission for 3 months and it's running again but now I have a new problem. Sooner or later (hopefully sooner) I'll (and you'll) have the problems worked out.

Drewster67

Mike is so right -The domino effect applies.

I would look for another tech. and if your a Popular Mechanic, try doing some of the work your self.

Changing the fluid lines is a little bit of work but you can do it at home for the fraction of the cost.

Also, instead of buying new liquid lines - Pricy as all hell, have your existing ones repaired. You use the same fittings but new hoses are retro-fitted.

On my 924s - a new A/C liquid line was 175.00. Retro-fitting was only 30.00.

Hang in there, don't get too discouraged. Once it's all said and done - You'll shark will treat you right.


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diego-ted

Thanks to All, I am a well seasoned 928 owner this is my 3rd. I know all to well about the domino effect, I was just blowing off steam. My mech. is one of the best in town and has the best labor rate. Precision foreign in I.B. It just seem like these things happen at the worest time. I usually am a hands on kind of guy, but I"ve got a blown rotator cuff that requires surgery so I have to Pay to Play.
Thanks to all.
diego-ted

John..

My advice is to buy a service manual and read up.

Then do the work yourself.

Just because you take the car to a "Porsche" shop doesn't mean the work is the best out there. For me, the best work comes from my garage, because it is free and done right.

Remember, he is also making large coin on the parts he puts in your car.

Randy V

Just an FYI (not sure if someone else already mentioned this), but all those hoses can be brought to any hydraulic hose specialty shop and be rebuilt, reusing the existing coupling ends, for about $20 apiece.

Nicole

People have told me I'm crazy for not driving my 928 every day. Well, unfortunately I can't consider myself wealthy, nor do I have the capability to do major repairs by myself. So I don't want to rely on a vehicle that might cost me a few thousand at any given time, in order to make me mobile again.

Instead, I spread the risk accross two vehicles, one of which is a lot less expensive to maintain and serves as my daily driver. This also makes me appreciate the 928 much more when I take it out - I don't think I will ever take the beast for granted...

Added benefits:
1. The 928 is always clean when I have time to enjoy it - I don't have to take it out in bad weather.
2. The leather is still very soft, because the sun does not get as much chance to dry it out.

Nevertheless, I hae spent over $12,000 in the past 2 1/2 years of ownership - that's about $1 per mile - on maintenance, repairs, tires, etc. This does not include insurance, registration, or gas. A brand new car of similar value would have cost me about as much in depreciation over that same time.

Steve Brown

I have just become a 928 S4 (1989) owner, it's got 13,000kms on the clock, is all, and I KNOW that it's genuine. Lots of hoses and tubes leaking like crazy from lack of use. I contacted the local dealer here in Hong Kong and nearly died of fright when I heard what was being asked for what looked like a bit of pipe. Then I was steered to a local company which makes replacement hydraulic hoses, vacuum hoses and any other sorts you care to think of. The do better-than-original stuff as they only use stainless steel braided hose, all made to exactly what you want.
They do hoses for heavy equipment such as dozers, cranes and the like. They are good for me, their minimum test-pressure is 400lbs/sq.in!!

Shark_gts

Trans hoses - The hoses harden, crack or simply shrink. The fact crimp joints cannot be tightened.

For about $40 in material you can: 1. Cut the crimp fittings with a hack saw or dremel, & pry off. 2. Cut the old rubber hoses off. 3. Fit new hoses cut to size of proper spec and double clamp, with an SS screw/ring clamp.

Takes about a day to do. I've done it without even removing the exhaust - but that is strongly suggested.