Candleman

Is it possible to have a Napoleon complex at 5'8"? I don't know what it is that makes that kind of thing bother me so much.

FlyingDog

https://rennlist.com/forums/off-topic/403737-truck-castration-bill-in-the-works.htmlAsk Tom. He has a supercharged stroker.yer sposed to do that bfor postng on te interweb

H2

Well said...

largecar379

Mmmm........that's what my Euro does with just 4.5L's......

It's the sidepipes........


Can't even imagine what it would be like with over 6 liters........probably like my old super stocker I raced for years. (stroked 440 Mopar--500 cu in, not legal for class racing, but it sure was fun...)

--Russ

largecar379

the thing I find most interesting about this stroker stuff (I am just learning about doing a 928 motor, but have run really big inch strokers in drag cars for years) is that it is in it's infancy.

As Jim B said, very few have done/are doing it, but the domestics (Ford, Chevy Mopar) have done it for decades.......

My best friend is currently running a 572 in BBC in a quick 16 Chevy II. Stupidly fast, but a really great ride. I've driven it a few times, and man there is nothing like it for a door slammer that's near street legal. seriously reliable, runs cool, runs hard every weekend, and it's consistent. 8 teens in the quarter at over 150 mph.....

When I speak to him about 928 engines, it's a different language, but the more I talk to him about it, his conclusion is that it's close to a small block Chevy with over head cams.....Particularly when it comes to this stroking issue. And some of us are using SBC parts in their 928 strokers, so go figure.....

What would really be a gas????

using deck spacers like Sonny Leonard first did on his IHRA Pro Stock Ford builds. Imagine 800 cubes in your 928.....that would be some serious torque to play with......Of course, the timing belt would have to be another mile long......

--Russ

heinrich

Russ, the stroked 928 engine has been around a looong time. It is well understood, and VERY VERY expensive.

largecar379

well.......I haven't been into 928's for a long time?

Yeah........that's what I should have said.....!!!!!


yep, Zilla-man, about $5-7K just for the basics, it seems.......


still learning----

--Russ

heinrich

Just heppin out Brutha But seriously, a stroker will cost you in total no less than 15k. Up to 25k.

largecar379

I really hate to hear that "up to 25K" number......

--Russ

Mike Simard

It might help your friend to look at the 928 engine as a SBC/Mopar 440 mix. it has the same bore spacing as a 440/426, a similar deck height to a SBC. That SBC deck height is used to stuff a 4" stroke crank in the case of an LS7 so the stroker cranks of the 928 world are conservative! The 928 bore spacing isn't used well, those small diameter cylinder towers are wasting alot of bore capacity.

NickT

I think too as with everything there is more than one way to do something.

You have to weigh you abilities and/or the strength of you wallet and the amount of time your willing to invest up front.

Each method has it positives and negatives, you just have to figure out what is right for your individual situation.

I am always thinking of pulling my engine just to give it the "once over". At that point.. yea I'd probably stroke it over anything else.. But thats just me.

hacker-pschorr

Friend of mine is a well known Ford guru up here. I was talking to him about building a 331 or 347 stroker out of my 302 for the Cobra. I want a high reving (he said 8,200rpm is pretty easy) smooth motor (no lumby cam, fuel injected etc...).
So I bring up the money factor, I said a 928 stroker crank is about (on average) $3k - $4k, around how much would the 331 or 347 crank be?
He laughed and said he could probably build my entire engine for that - including new heads.

Ispeed

This is slightly off topic, but not inappropriate for this train of thought:

Everyone considering more power:
Have they brought their car up to 100% function and getting all the power and performance it has stock? Any un done maintenance?
Are they running on 20 year old suspension and cheap/old tires?
A/t tranny? (try a 5 speed in the same car to see if that does the trick)

I think the 928 has a lot of natural performance if it is mechanically restored, but I am a believer in stiffer suspension and bigger rubber. I would recommend this route before going on the 'steroids'.

A 2nd and 3rd gear blast down the street with my friend Chris prompted him to say "Do you mind if I take out an insurance policy on you?" Pretty funny, I told him it would be a waste of money.

largecar379

You're right Hack, build anything domestic and it costs a "hack" of a lot less.......

not to mention the rpm limits I've read about with 928. seems pretty conservative. I used to twist my old stroked 500" big block Mopar 7500 rpms all day long and never think about it.........even with hydraulic roller lifters/cam----

--Russ

AO

Amen, brother!

It's not easy to put all that power to the ground, and when you do, you need to be able to control the vehicle.