928 question (Going to look at a '86 928 S2 - rv)
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928 question (Going to look at a '86 928 S2 - rv)
First post here - be gentle
I remember the introduction of the 928 back in the late 70s when I was a boy. Ever since I have loved the 928. Unlike most people, I'd actually prefer a 928 over a 911 any time.
Currently I own a BMW E38 735 V8 but it might be time for me to indulge myself. Thinking of buying a 928
Going to look at a '86 928 S2 with 139k miles. Timing belt was done at 133k miles, but that was nearly 5 years ago! Should it be done again now? What kinda cost is involved (I'd like to think an independent specialist will do the work, not a Porsche main dealer)
The tranny box is a Mercedes-Benz S-class (W126?) derived ZF 4 speed box. Unlike most Europeans, I love autos. So that's another major plus for me
Any other comments? Here's a few links to the car for sale:
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=42514
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index...r&carID=854187
http://www.cbg.ie/Cardetail.aspx?CBG...0S2&frmFilter=
Any reply / comment is much appreciated! The car has just passed its bi-annual Irish roadworthiness and emissions test two days ago, so safety, suspension, emissions are ok
I plan to test drive the car and I plan to have it checked over by an independent Porsche specialist. Anything else I need to look out for?
I remember the introduction of the 928 back in the late 70s when I was a boy. Ever since I have loved the 928. Unlike most people, I'd actually prefer a 928 over a 911 any time.
Currently I own a BMW E38 735 V8 but it might be time for me to indulge myself. Thinking of buying a 928
Going to look at a '86 928 S2 with 139k miles. Timing belt was done at 133k miles, but that was nearly 5 years ago! Should it be done again now? What kinda cost is involved (I'd like to think an independent specialist will do the work, not a Porsche main dealer)
The tranny box is a Mercedes-Benz S-class (W126?) derived ZF 4 speed box. Unlike most Europeans, I love autos. So that's another major plus for me
Any other comments? Here's a few links to the car for sale:
http://www.adverts.ie/showproduct.php?product=42514
http://www.carzone.ie/usedcars/index...r&carID=854187
http://www.cbg.ie/Cardetail.aspx?CBG...0S2&frmFilter=
Any reply / comment is much appreciated! The car has just passed its bi-annual Irish roadworthiness and emissions test two days ago, so safety, suspension, emissions are ok
I plan to test drive the car and I plan to have it checked over by an independent Porsche specialist. Anything else I need to look out for?
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Race Car
It would be a good idea to do the t-belt again and I'm sure most would concur. 4 years or 45000 miles which ever comes first is the recommended. I think t-belt jobs with new water pumps and related tensioners seals run run between $800-1000 now a days. correct me if I'm wrong.
My S4 is in for the job now, I 'll have to see the bill to confirm my costs, and costs will differ from region to region because of shop rates. and how much they decide to stroke you on the parts.
My S4 is in for the job now, I 'll have to see the bill to confirm my costs, and costs will differ from region to region because of shop rates. and how much they decide to stroke you on the parts.
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Try to find a 928 owner to go with you to look at the car.
after 5 years I myself would change the TB
The later S2's are my favourite 928; especially the ones with the suspension & brakes designed for the S4 that were fitted to some of the later of the S2s.
Marton
after 5 years I myself would change the TB
The later S2's are my favourite 928; especially the ones with the suspension & brakes designed for the S4 that were fitted to some of the later of the S2s.
Marton
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welcome Unkel
took a look at your links, appears to be clean, desireable late 16v w/lh injection 310hp engine, really nice looking interior (that is NOT leather, except maybe the seat bolsters), the tranny is the later 4spd which is great if you like autos.. will have either the 2.36 final drive or the optional 2.54, neither of which is shabby by any means... overall a nice example
get a Pre-Purchase Inspection (PPI) by a qualified 928 mechanic and then trust your instincts
best of luck
took a look at your links, appears to be clean, desireable late 16v w/lh injection 310hp engine, really nice looking interior (that is NOT leather, except maybe the seat bolsters), the tranny is the later 4spd which is great if you like autos.. will have either the 2.36 final drive or the optional 2.54, neither of which is shabby by any means... overall a nice example
get a Pre-Purchase Inspection (PPI) by a qualified 928 mechanic and then trust your instincts
best of luck
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Looks like a very clean example, love the interior. I've always been a fan of the cloth inserts on the 928 seats. Adds an element of class.
Now, 5 years is a long time for a belt, even if it has seen only 6K miles. Most folks on this board will tell you 5 years or 45K miles which ever comes first. I tend to follow that advise, but I do all my own maintenance. Having a private shop do the work drives up the cost considerably, but well worth the peace of mind, not having to worry about it failing and the subsquent engine damage.
The other things to be concerned with will be fluid changes and all the rubber seals, gaskets and o-rings that have dried out from lack of use. Daily use is really the best thing for these cars. The owners that drive them daily or very frequently tend to have the fewest problems.
If your capable of doing some of the maintenance yourself, after having the belt done, I say go for it. And Good Luck, they are fantastic cars.
Jim Mayzurk
93 GTS 5-spd
Now, 5 years is a long time for a belt, even if it has seen only 6K miles. Most folks on this board will tell you 5 years or 45K miles which ever comes first. I tend to follow that advise, but I do all my own maintenance. Having a private shop do the work drives up the cost considerably, but well worth the peace of mind, not having to worry about it failing and the subsquent engine damage.
The other things to be concerned with will be fluid changes and all the rubber seals, gaskets and o-rings that have dried out from lack of use. Daily use is really the best thing for these cars. The owners that drive them daily or very frequently tend to have the fewest problems.
If your capable of doing some of the maintenance yourself, after having the belt done, I say go for it. And Good Luck, they are fantastic cars.
Jim Mayzurk
93 GTS 5-spd
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This is a 16V non-interference engine correct?
If the belt and wp only have ~5k miles on them… IMHO I would check the tension and tensioner (for oil) examine the belt when checking the tension and if all looks good… put you money elsewhere.
Porsche never did specify time as a requirement, these belts are pretty tough, the condition of the rubber depends on where/how it was stored.. edit: and more important the condition of all the Pulleys (give it a good look first).
Good luck,
DaveK9
If the belt and wp only have ~5k miles on them… IMHO I would check the tension and tensioner (for oil) examine the belt when checking the tension and if all looks good… put you money elsewhere.
Porsche never did specify time as a requirement, these belts are pretty tough, the condition of the rubber depends on where/how it was stored.. edit: and more important the condition of all the Pulleys (give it a good look first).
Good luck,
DaveK9
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Thanks a lot for all your help and advice
Thanks Dave. Yes it is 16V but after some reading I believe the US '85/'86 model is non-interference but the Euro '85/'86 model is interference. Hence my worries about the belt having been replaced that long ago. Can anyone confirm the Euro is an interference? If it is, I guess you would advise me (like the others did) to have it replaced asap?
Hi Randy. I only scanned through it before I posted and I've had a good read through it tonight. Wealth of information out there! BTW I liked the story you quoted with "the zone"
Can't wait to be in a 928, drive it and hopefully, end up owning one!
Thanks Dave. Yes it is 16V but after some reading I believe the US '85/'86 model is non-interference but the Euro '85/'86 model is interference. Hence my worries about the belt having been replaced that long ago. Can anyone confirm the Euro is an interference? If it is, I guess you would advise me (like the others did) to have it replaced asap?
Can't wait to be in a 928, drive it and hopefully, end up owning one!
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The US '85 and '86 are 32V and like all other 32V 928’s a jumped or stripped belt will result in bent valves.
Porsche introduced the 32V to the US market first, and followed up that introduction with the rest of the world (ROW) from MY '87 on with some modifications to the initial '85 & ‘86 32V engine design.
Someone else will have to comment on the/your EURO 16V interference question.
Keep reading, as the more you know before you buy will payoff in the end.
Porsche introduced the 32V to the US market first, and followed up that introduction with the rest of the world (ROW) from MY '87 on with some modifications to the initial '85 & ‘86 32V engine design.
Someone else will have to comment on the/your EURO 16V interference question.
Keep reading, as the more you know before you buy will payoff in the end.
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Nordschleife Master
The US '85 and '86 are 32V and like all other 32V 928’s a jumped or stripped belt will result in bent valves.
Porsche introduced the 32V to the US market first, and followed up that introduction with the rest of the world (ROW) from MY '87 on with some modifications to the initial '85 & ‘86 32V engine design.
Someone else will have to comment on the/your EURO 16V interference question.
Keep reading, as the more you know before you buy will payoff in the end.
Porsche introduced the 32V to the US market first, and followed up that introduction with the rest of the world (ROW) from MY '87 on with some modifications to the initial '85 & ‘86 32V engine design.
Someone else will have to comment on the/your EURO 16V interference question.
Keep reading, as the more you know before you buy will payoff in the end.