custom audio installs
08-30-2002, 06:15 PM
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KBlair,
Several years ago I competed in IASCA and USAC stereo competitions (not in my 928!). I used wave guide speakers and if that is the route you are thinking of taking you should not use any other speakers up front. The wavguide speaker system is designed to handle your highs and mids. The more speakers you start adding it takes away from your front soundstage. I have a 87 S4 and have looked several times at adding waveguides to the front, but decide against it because I do not want to change the factory appearance. But they would fit nicely!! The major problem with these cars are lack of space for amps and a sub. But it can be done with some creativity.
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Several years ago I competed in IASCA and USAC stereo competitions (not in my 928!). I used wave guide speakers and if that is the route you are thinking of taking you should not use any other speakers up front. The wavguide speaker system is designed to handle your highs and mids. The more speakers you start adding it takes away from your front soundstage. I have a 87 S4 and have looked several times at adding waveguides to the front, but decide against it because I do not want to change the factory appearance. But they would fit nicely!! The major problem with these cars are lack of space for amps and a sub. But it can be done with some creativity.
Steve Hunter
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08-30-2002, 07:52 PM
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eh..Perhaps not the best, but im happy with my 8" Bazooka in the back. 110% difference in the sound i have now. I can still go to Home Depot, load up my luggage or head to the track. Just unplug it and remove. My amp for the deck sits inside the spare wheel, in side the well.
Guess my approach is to make the car functional for diferent types of driving. Track, open road, around town or just cruising along listening to RUSH's "Red Barchetta"
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Guess my approach is to make the car functional for diferent types of driving. Track, open road, around town or just cruising along listening to RUSH's "Red Barchetta"
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08-30-2002, 09:42 PM
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I'll post pics when done. I've got some great ideas for a stealth system.
I plan on using a folded horn design for the sub so I can use the rear cargo space 100%..... I will just give up about 3 inches in depth. The horn design also filters out cone distortion while adding distance between the sound source (sub) and the listener.
As an added bonus, the weight will be split between a heavy sub on the driver side and a boat anchor a/d/s amp on the passenger.
Tony...... Your car is not red.
Scott
I plan on using a folded horn design for the sub so I can use the rear cargo space 100%..... I will just give up about 3 inches in depth. The horn design also filters out cone distortion while adding distance between the sound source (sub) and the listener.
As an added bonus, the weight will be split between a heavy sub on the driver side and a boat anchor a/d/s amp on the passenger.
Tony...... Your car is not red.
Scott
08-31-2002, 12:06 AM
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Max, nice PPI setup. How's that RF Symmetry working out? I've got a RF 400.4 that I will probably use in my (soon to be bought) 83 928S 5sp somewhere. A pair of Infinity 65.3i 3-ways for the back seat. probably move the Soundstream exact 4" and 1" set to the factory door locations.
Steve, about the waveguides. I've only heard them in other peoples cars at competitions and such. would midbass drivers be necessary up front? horns under the dash and midbass in the doors was what I was thinking. The USD D-100 waveguides I was looking at are rated at 1400-20,000Hz which is somewhere between midbass and midrange.
Steve, about the waveguides. I've only heard them in other peoples cars at competitions and such. would midbass drivers be necessary up front? horns under the dash and midbass in the doors was what I was thinking. The USD D-100 waveguides I was looking at are rated at 1400-20,000Hz which is somewhere between midbass and midrange.
08-31-2002, 07:17 AM
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This is just a picture that I founf on the net.
I have an Eclipse 7002. This has the TV screen to control the entire system, but it hides out. I am also working on a sub. It MUST look fatory. It will go in the spare tire area....flush. It's important to have a CLEAN install.
All of you who are doing some sort of an install on your cars. Don't leave any exposed audio components. It will look like a high school students work. Go the extra mile, our cars are worth it.
I have an Eclipse 7002. This has the TV screen to control the entire system, but it hides out. I am also working on a sub. It MUST look fatory. It will go in the spare tire area....flush. It's important to have a CLEAN install.
All of you who are doing some sort of an install on your cars. Don't leave any exposed audio components. It will look like a high school students work. Go the extra mile, our cars are worth it.
08-31-2002, 07:23 AM
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Here is a good example of what a sound system on a 928 -SHOULD- look like. 
<a href="http://cgi.matsuha.or.jp/club928/pict/audio/" target="_blank">Ni ce Install</a>
<a href="http://cgi.matsuha.or.jp/club928/pict/audio/" target="_blank">Ni ce Install</a>
<a href="http://www.928sg.com/electrical.htm" target="_blank">web page</a>
08-31-2002, 03:07 PM
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For those of us who treasure the stock appearance and want to maintain enough room for two sets of clubs and the weekend luggage, most of these show-off systems are steps in the wrong direction.
I have all the stuff to go in the car, but it pains me to cut up the spare tire cover. Looks like I'll be fab'ing a new cover, with an 8" woofer (why are they called 'subs' when you can hear them?) nestled inside the spare. The amps are two inches tall, and the jury is leaning towards a raised deck, thin cover over the amp flush fit with the cover, carpoet over the whole mess, and some forced cooling in the cavity to keep it all happy. I figure I can still get clubs in there with 2" of vertical space lost.
How do you guys manage access to the tool cover and the spare tire and battery well? Some of those trunk-eating systems look like they are fairly permanent.
Is there a reason why the power distribution and fuse blocks are exposed on many systems? That stuff can hide with the battery, can't it? It's not clear to me why having exposed wiring is sometimes considered a 'good thing.' Thoughts?
I'm running a Blau head unit barefoot right now, with Infinity three-ways in place of the factory 6.5's behind the seats. All the other stuff is original. Any thoughts on door speaker combos that can retain the original grills and appearance? Anybody added separate tweeters or mids in the package tray? Stealth is important for me.
I have all the stuff to go in the car, but it pains me to cut up the spare tire cover. Looks like I'll be fab'ing a new cover, with an 8" woofer (why are they called 'subs' when you can hear them?) nestled inside the spare. The amps are two inches tall, and the jury is leaning towards a raised deck, thin cover over the amp flush fit with the cover, carpoet over the whole mess, and some forced cooling in the cavity to keep it all happy. I figure I can still get clubs in there with 2" of vertical space lost.
How do you guys manage access to the tool cover and the spare tire and battery well? Some of those trunk-eating systems look like they are fairly permanent.
Is there a reason why the power distribution and fuse blocks are exposed on many systems? That stuff can hide with the battery, can't it? It's not clear to me why having exposed wiring is sometimes considered a 'good thing.' Thoughts?
I'm running a Blau head unit barefoot right now, with Infinity three-ways in place of the factory 6.5's behind the seats. All the other stuff is original. Any thoughts on door speaker combos that can retain the original grills and appearance? Anybody added separate tweeters or mids in the package tray? Stealth is important for me.
08-31-2002, 04:33 PM
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I wouldn't want to give up any of my valuable space back there. I frequently fold the rear seats down and throw two sets of golf clubs in the back. And if that area is raised for even a couple of inches it would probably look real strange with the seats folded forward.
As to placing a subwoofer in the spare, what do you do with the compressor? If you toss the compressor, might as well throw out the spare, no?
My car does not have the rear AC and I am thinking of placing two small subs in the rear compartment, I really never use it.
A good source for speakers is <a href="http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-8F5oNF0yHNt/ProdGroup.asp?c=10&g=410&s=0" target="_blank">Crutchfield.com</a> , it lets you look up systems that exactly fit your car. The prices seem decent as well.
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As to placing a subwoofer in the spare, what do you do with the compressor? If you toss the compressor, might as well throw out the spare, no?
My car does not have the rear AC and I am thinking of placing two small subs in the rear compartment, I really never use it.
A good source for speakers is <a href="http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-8F5oNF0yHNt/ProdGroup.asp?c=10&g=410&s=0" target="_blank">Crutchfield.com</a> , it lets you look up systems that exactly fit your car. The prices seem decent as well.
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09-01-2002, 12:23 AM
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DrBob, the exposed wiring is mostly for show. the only real advantage to exposed is if you have a fuse block back there and blow a fuse it's easier to replace.
Seb, try <a href="http://www.sounddomain.com." target="_blank">www.sounddomain.com.</a> Another place with good prices and service is <a href="http://www.thezeb.com," target="_blank">www.thezeb.com,</a> check their specials. Crutchfield has a wealth of information, and if you order a head unit they send all the wiring harnesses and install brackets no charge, but their prices are higher to begin with.
The shark I've picked already has a system installed. Haven't gotten apics yet, but it's got a custom box in back with 4 8" woofers driven by a 200 watt amp. Sound like overkill for such a small interior space.
Seb, try <a href="http://www.sounddomain.com." target="_blank">www.sounddomain.com.</a> Another place with good prices and service is <a href="http://www.thezeb.com," target="_blank">www.thezeb.com,</a> check their specials. Crutchfield has a wealth of information, and if you order a head unit they send all the wiring harnesses and install brackets no charge, but their prices are higher to begin with.
The shark I've picked already has a system installed. Haven't gotten apics yet, but it's got a custom box in back with 4 8" woofers driven by a 200 watt amp. Sound like overkill for such a small interior space.
