New rings? Honing? Help? Whats a guy to do?
03-18-2003, 04:21 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by marc@DEVEK:
<strong>.......... I disagree with the usage of new rings on old bores.........
Advice - use new rings.
Marc DEVEK</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Mark,
I do not understand what you mean with the above, please explain ones more.
<strong>.......... I disagree with the usage of new rings on old bores.........
Advice - use new rings.
Marc DEVEK</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Mark,
I do not understand what you mean with the above, please explain ones more.
03-19-2003, 10:04 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica"> After building 390 based egines and working with one of the Reynolds developers of the 390 some years ago, I disagree with the usage of new rings on old bores. And from exp have found that I can seat a ring in a bore in about 2 minutes by hand and they will have a less than 1.5 - 2% leakdown prior to running. If the bore is sized correctly and not worn.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">To be honest, I'm getting ready to re-ring a used set of pistons in a used block all sourced from different places. I've got a short block from Kibort with 50k, a set of euro 4.7 pistons from Devek also with about 50k, and a set of new rings from 928Intl. The bores are great and the pistons aren't scuffed at all so I expect/assume/hope it's going to seal just fine. We'll see.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">To be honest, I'm getting ready to re-ring a used set of pistons in a used block all sourced from different places. I've got a short block from Kibort with 50k, a set of euro 4.7 pistons from Devek also with about 50k, and a set of new rings from 928Intl. The bores are great and the pistons aren't scuffed at all so I expect/assume/hope it's going to seal just fine. We'll see.
03-19-2003, 10:40 PM
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Mike,
all is well as long as the pistons and block tol codes match, otherwise, you will be a bit loose or worse, too tight
Install the rings carefully!
Marc
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all is well as long as the pistons and block tol codes match, otherwise, you will be a bit loose or worse, too tight
Install the rings carefully!
Marc
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03-20-2003, 12:33 PM
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Tresamore,
I found the same article written in English, see
<a href="http://www.msi-motor-service.com/download/broschueren/alu_en.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.msi-motor-service.com/download/broschueren/alu_en.pdf</a>
I found the same article written in English, see
<a href="http://www.msi-motor-service.com/download/broschueren/alu_en.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.msi-motor-service.com/download/broschueren/alu_en.pdf</a>
03-20-2003, 01:59 PM
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Marc,
It's all TG 1. The _only_ thing preventing assembly at this stage are those darned hollow dowels that locate the block halves. I have one, can't find the other, no luck sourcing 2 new ones from anyone. I'm about to have some made so I can stuff this engine in the weinrot. I'll let you know how it goes.
It's all TG 1. The _only_ thing preventing assembly at this stage are those darned hollow dowels that locate the block halves. I have one, can't find the other, no luck sourcing 2 new ones from anyone. I'm about to have some made so I can stuff this engine in the weinrot. I'll let you know how it goes.
03-21-2003, 08:57 PM
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Thanks again Erik,
It has been downloaded, printed, punched and installed in my 3 ring binder and is awaiting a read. Perhaps this weekend. My latest priority involves whether to cut the crank mains or not. I need to get to the shop to take a look at it post polishing. It's tricky to find oversize (or undersize depending on who you talk to) bearings. The dealer has them for $330! Do you know if Glyco made the original bearings? I found a set of std for $99. Good deal, but I want original manuf. bearings. The weather is starting to warm up here and I'd rather drive the 87 than the 85, I really have to get going on this car!! Thanks Erik, your a good guy.
It has been downloaded, printed, punched and installed in my 3 ring binder and is awaiting a read. Perhaps this weekend. My latest priority involves whether to cut the crank mains or not. I need to get to the shop to take a look at it post polishing. It's tricky to find oversize (or undersize depending on who you talk to) bearings. The dealer has them for $330! Do you know if Glyco made the original bearings? I found a set of std for $99. Good deal, but I want original manuf. bearings. The weather is starting to warm up here and I'd rather drive the 87 than the 85, I really have to get going on this car!! Thanks Erik, your a good guy.
