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Old 10-16-2007, 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by IcemanG17
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Early 87's did start in 1st all the time.....it was a mid year change to start in 2nd...
Thanks for clearing that up.
Old 10-16-2007, 07:54 AM
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My '89 won't redline in first even if i keep it in 2" it shift's around 5000 rpm.

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Old 10-16-2007, 12:00 PM
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Check your wide open throttle switch. If you are not WOT the trans will shift at 5000. Do you hear/feel a click when pushing the pedal to the floor?
Old 10-16-2007, 12:50 PM
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My '86.5 starts in first ALL the time and then if the throttle is held past one third, it slams into second an slides sideways as it shortens the life of my rear tires (which are usually bald anyway) even more.
Old 10-16-2007, 01:07 PM
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My plan is to simply add enough torque to the motor, that I'm grip limited in 2nd from a standing start
Old 10-16-2007, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ShawnSmith
Honestly, depending on your tires, just mashing the throttle works decent too, although you will shift 1-2 at around 5k rpm, well before redline (but it's a glorious slide into 2nd using the torque converter in the meat of the motors powerband).
Originally Posted by 928autobahndreamer
Do you hear/feel a click when pushing the pedal to the floor?
I went and looked last night, autobahndreamer and Shawn have almost got it. Again this depends on adjustments on your car. Take a minute and stick your head down where the pedals are, with the engine not running and look behind the throttle pedal. There is literally a switch on the floor. When, as Shawn mentions, you mash it he means to the floor and hold it and don't be lazy about it. By doing so you are hitting this switch and there is a click. You have triggered the WOT (wide open throttle) switch which changes the mapping for shifting and engine management. This should trigger 1st gear and a lot of go-go..

The other way to find 1st that I use more often is when rolling to a stop if you drop it into 2nd. The car will downshift to 1st as you roll to a stop. You should be able to feel it as it drops down. Again, now you are ready for more go-go. I still feel uncomfortable letting the tranny shift 1st to 2nd and normally blip the tranny to 3rd then back to 2nd vs waiting for it to do it. In my '88 this all happens REALLY fast so it takes some practice to get used to.

Let us know how your BBBWWWAAAA--dventures turn out.

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Old 10-16-2007, 01:31 PM
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If the gearbox is tuned right, it's not necessary to actually hit the WOT switch to get a 1st gear start.

Hitting the WOT is generally _sufficient_ to give you 1st, but not required. Fast deep throttle application will also do it. The gearbox is weighing more than one input to make its decision.

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Old 10-16-2007, 01:41 PM
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There is a electronic (normally closed) relay which controls the kickdown solenoid on the transmission. At a set rpm, a few hundred below redline, the relay opens the kickdown circuit, and the transmission shifts up.

Originally Posted by jaybuni
BTW, why would it shift to 2nd from 1st when the revs hit redline? I thought by selecting 2nd at standstill and keeping the stick at 2nd and flooring it will stay in first no matter what the rev speed is or have I lost it again?
I'm always surprised how fast the kick-up comes, when I'm teaching lesser cars a lession, from a stoplight.
Old 10-17-2007, 12:20 AM
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Last question on this, do I need to press the side button on the t handle to do all of this or can I just pull up and down without pressing in the side button ?

No one has commented on the risks and damage to the tranny doing this thus I'm assuming its a safe thing to do?

You guys are the best!

Thanks
Old 10-17-2007, 12:53 AM
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I need to try that with mine
Old 10-17-2007, 01:00 AM
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You can shift between 3 and D without using the button on the shifter.

Moving into 2 requires the button be depressed.
Old 10-17-2007, 05:49 PM
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For the 2-3-2 move, you will have to hold the button in, only because you want to pull it back in to 2, after moving it up. The button restricts the 3-2 part.
Old 10-17-2007, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SeanR
For the 2-3-2 move, you will have to hold the button in, only because you want to pull it back in to 2, after moving it up. The button restricts the 3-2 part.
Sean, good to know, haven't given it a try since I adjusted my momo ****. I used to just always push on it cause the whole thing was loose. Sorry to hear about your loss but the hood pic is AWSOME!!

Too bad Andrew went and ruined it for me



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