Agla / Shift Boot
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Hi everyone,
I ordered a shift boot from 928 Specialists two months ago. Still hasn't come in. The problem is apparently that Agla is behind in filling its orders, or so I'm told. I need a new shift boot and pattern insert for my black interior 86.5 928S.
Do any of you have experience with this? Is there a better way to order Agla besides the big three? Agla is advertising on eBay but they've gotten quite a bit of negative/neutral feedback for late orders, orders taking two months to fill, etc.
Best wishes and thanks in advance,
Scott
I ordered a shift boot from 928 Specialists two months ago. Still hasn't come in. The problem is apparently that Agla is behind in filling its orders, or so I'm told. I need a new shift boot and pattern insert for my black interior 86.5 928S.
Do any of you have experience with this? Is there a better way to order Agla besides the big three? Agla is advertising on eBay but they've gotten quite a bit of negative/neutral feedback for late orders, orders taking two months to fill, etc.
Best wishes and thanks in advance,
Scott
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I've also heard negative things about the quality of the Agla products (particuarly their steering wheel re-covers IIRC). My guess is that anything that Paul or Rob sell would run circles around the Agla stuff..
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/928.html
http://www.928leathershop.com/
I've also heard negative things about the quality of the Agla products (particuarly their steering wheel re-covers IIRC). My guess is that anything that Paul or Rob sell would run circles around the Agla stuff..
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/928.html
http://www.928leathershop.com/
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Hmmm...
I've been very happy with the shifter boots and wheel cover I got from Agla.
Why go through 928 spec at all? Order direct: http://www.aglausa.com/pages/porsche.html
I've been very happy with the shifter boots and wheel cover I got from Agla.
Why go through 928 spec at all? Order direct: http://www.aglausa.com/pages/porsche.html
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Thanks guys for your feedback. Just spoke with xxx xxx from one of the big three. He advised me to just simply buy the Porsche original **** as well-- which is what I am going to do!
All my best wishes,
Scott
All my best wishes,
Scott
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The agla that I got was so so and took three months to get from both Specailists and through AGLA on e-bay.
I also ordered a Porsche Boot and **** and that took over a year to get, and it wasn't even an exotic color but was black.
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DON'T buy AGLA. Poor material, poor workmanship, poor service. Support Rob Budd or Paul Champagne. Better quality, better workmanship, better service - BETTER PEOPLE because they each own a 928!
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Hi Scott,
I don't know about their shift boot cover, but I did a DIY steering wheel re-cover with an AGLA kit, and I have to say that I did not find it to be of poor quality.
Granted, it was awhile ago (Aug. '02 - saw ad in a Porsche mag.) when I purchased their re-cover kit, but the lady I spoke with then was very friendly and helpful. As I had only called on the phone and not sent in any color sample to AGLA, she was very thorough and careful to insure that she supplied the correct color (dark blue). As I recall, I received the cover in about a week from placing the order. And the color was right on.
The kit included the leather cover (three pieces), an ample amount of thread and a heavy gauge, blunt tipped stitching needle. I had some trouble wielding that needle, it was a bit too thick to easily pass through the pre-punched holes, so I bought a couple of slightly thinner, curved needles at a local fabric place which worked much better IMHO.
I will say though that as a DIY project, this one requires a high degree of patience to get it right. It might seem straight forward and a no-brainer, but I soon discovered there was plenty I didn't know. Getting the stitching pattern right took me a few tries. I started over at least three times. And trimming off the excess leather while minimizing any seams takes good eyes and steady hands.
I can't say exactly how many hours it took me, but I spent around a week and a half of evenings working (and re-working) a little bit each time. Back then, the kit cost me $68.70 total, with shipping, handling and a service charge, so perhaps it wasn't the most cost effective solution by todays options, but there is something to be said for the satisfaction of completing a DIY project on your 928.
That said, I certainly applaud the work done by our own member craftsmen (and craftswomen) and I would encourage anyone who doesn't have the patience, time or ability for this DIY project to let them Do It For You!
I don't know about their shift boot cover, but I did a DIY steering wheel re-cover with an AGLA kit, and I have to say that I did not find it to be of poor quality.
Granted, it was awhile ago (Aug. '02 - saw ad in a Porsche mag.) when I purchased their re-cover kit, but the lady I spoke with then was very friendly and helpful. As I had only called on the phone and not sent in any color sample to AGLA, she was very thorough and careful to insure that she supplied the correct color (dark blue). As I recall, I received the cover in about a week from placing the order. And the color was right on.
The kit included the leather cover (three pieces), an ample amount of thread and a heavy gauge, blunt tipped stitching needle. I had some trouble wielding that needle, it was a bit too thick to easily pass through the pre-punched holes, so I bought a couple of slightly thinner, curved needles at a local fabric place which worked much better IMHO.
I will say though that as a DIY project, this one requires a high degree of patience to get it right. It might seem straight forward and a no-brainer, but I soon discovered there was plenty I didn't know. Getting the stitching pattern right took me a few tries. I started over at least three times. And trimming off the excess leather while minimizing any seams takes good eyes and steady hands.
I can't say exactly how many hours it took me, but I spent around a week and a half of evenings working (and re-working) a little bit each time. Back then, the kit cost me $68.70 total, with shipping, handling and a service charge, so perhaps it wasn't the most cost effective solution by todays options, but there is something to be said for the satisfaction of completing a DIY project on your 928.
That said, I certainly applaud the work done by our own member craftsmen (and craftswomen) and I would encourage anyone who doesn't have the patience, time or ability for this DIY project to let them Do It For You!
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Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your message and the pictures. Nice work!
From what I have read across the Rennlist board over several years, as well as eBay feedbacks:
Agla is of mixed quality. Sometimes they ship promptly, sometimes it takes them three months. The stitching is also of mixed quality: sometimes their products are single-stitched, sometimes double. Finally, some people complain that their leather is "too thin."
A couple of knowledgable people whom I trust both agreed- if you want it to look like the original, buy OEM. If you can live without that, then you can go with the other options.
For me, I think I am just going to spend the extra $$ and buy the factory shift boot.
Best wishes,
Scott
Thanks for your message and the pictures. Nice work!
From what I have read across the Rennlist board over several years, as well as eBay feedbacks:
Agla is of mixed quality. Sometimes they ship promptly, sometimes it takes them three months. The stitching is also of mixed quality: sometimes their products are single-stitched, sometimes double. Finally, some people complain that their leather is "too thin."
A couple of knowledgable people whom I trust both agreed- if you want it to look like the original, buy OEM. If you can live without that, then you can go with the other options.
For me, I think I am just going to spend the extra $$ and buy the factory shift boot.
Best wishes,
Scott
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Scott-
I've also heard negative things about the quality of the Agla products (particuarly their steering wheel re-covers IIRC). My guess is that anything that Paul or Rob sell would run circles around the Agla stuff..
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/928.html
http://www.928leathershop.com/
I've also heard negative things about the quality of the Agla products (particuarly their steering wheel re-covers IIRC). My guess is that anything that Paul or Rob sell would run circles around the Agla stuff..
http://www.designpaulchampagne.com/928.html
http://www.928leathershop.com/
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Agla is of mixed quality.
if you want it to look like the original, buy OEM.
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Paul's got a listing for shift boots on his price list but doesn't have pics of one anywhere (I've spent rather more time on his site than a person ought to.....). Rob doesn't specifically list one for 928's but has a 944 offering. My guess is he'd do a beautiful one!
Paul's got a listing for shift boots on his price list but doesn't have pics of one anywhere (I've spent rather more time on his site than a person ought to.....). Rob doesn't specifically list one for 928's but has a 944 offering. My guess is he'd do a beautiful one!
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I assume you guys are referring to the standard 5 speed shift boot that also incorporates the shift ****.
If that is the case, I do make them.
The reason some of you are so dissatisfied with some of the aftermarket boots available, is simply because they have not been properly prepared for installation.
In order to fit properly, the leather that is to cover the **** as to be cut small, skived and then stretched in place. Once you are done, the leather should look like it was painted on.
The original boots that came in the cars were made and installed like that. Most, if not all the boots available aftermarket are just straight leather sewn together. Even a pro would have a hard time making those things fit properly
Paul
If that is the case, I do make them.
The reason some of you are so dissatisfied with some of the aftermarket boots available, is simply because they have not been properly prepared for installation.
In order to fit properly, the leather that is to cover the **** as to be cut small, skived and then stretched in place. Once you are done, the leather should look like it was painted on.
The original boots that came in the cars were made and installed like that. Most, if not all the boots available aftermarket are just straight leather sewn together. Even a pro would have a hard time making those things fit properly
Paul