SIde Exhaust; Does It Exist?
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Hello all! Pleased to be here-
A couple of weeks ago, I saw a silver 928, probably GTS, with a retro '57 Corvette-like side exhaust system that sounded excellent? I've looked and have not found even a reference to it anywhere? Does anyone know what this is, or who makes it? Thanks-
A couple of weeks ago, I saw a silver 928, probably GTS, with a retro '57 Corvette-like side exhaust system that sounded excellent? I've looked and have not found even a reference to it anywhere? Does anyone know what this is, or who makes it? Thanks-
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Whoa. Side pipes on a 928? I think there's a quote from "Full Metal Jacket" (scene in the head) that'll sum up some feelings on that. "Why are you not beating the sh**...etc, etc"
Anyway, you're probably not going to find reference to it anywhere because it certainly wasn't anything Porsche ever offered and is undoubtedly some kind of sick aftermarket thought. Probably not hard to do either. You don't need side pipes to make the 928 sound awesome. Removing the muffler and installing the twinpipe, or single pipe bypass will do. Others opt for Devek headers as well but you get the point.
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Anyway, you're probably not going to find reference to it anywhere because it certainly wasn't anything Porsche ever offered and is undoubtedly some kind of sick aftermarket thought. Probably not hard to do either. You don't need side pipes to make the 928 sound awesome. Removing the muffler and installing the twinpipe, or single pipe bypass will do. Others opt for Devek headers as well but you get the point.
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Furthermore, I'm willing to bet the owner of that sidepipe 928 had an early year Chrysler Viper in his past and once he found out what a piece of (fast) junk that was, decided to, 'get the best of both worlds'.
If you see the car again, and it's not too much trouble, snap a picture for posting on the new "928 Least Wanted List"
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If you see the car again, and it's not too much trouble, snap a picture for posting on the new "928 Least Wanted List"
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Actually I did in fact see a reference to
sidepipes for the 928 (and 944 I think),
it was in Pano a few months back.
I'll try to find the issue/page number and
repost later on.
Jim V
sidepipes for the 928 (and 944 I think),
it was in Pano a few months back.
I'll try to find the issue/page number and
repost later on.
Jim V
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At the risk of being flamed, I've actually thought about doing a sidepipe mod myself. Several of the Saleen and or Roush Mustangs have some pretty nice sidepipes that sound good. To me, if it's what you want, then do it. My opinion is that I paid for the car, so it is only me that I'm out to please. We don't all have the same religious or political opinions, so why should we all want the exact same look for our sharks??? The body lines are classic of course, but if someone wants to add/change it in some way that suits them, then why the hell not??? It's theirs, not ours. Just my 928 cents worth. BTW, my 3 1/2 inch rise cowl induction hood is complete (minus paint), and WILL be installed for SITM this May, along with a cold air intake system and a Nitrous Express 75 HP system. Flame away!!!!!!!!
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Many of us have seen the Gemballa 928 version with no less than 4 separate pipes coming out of the tail end (maybe with four more on the other side knowing what Gemballa did with 911s). I'm sure that look evokes much the same level of awe or, conversely, repulsion. Gotta wonder what that does to performance, though.
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In the June '01 Pano page 24 there is an ad
for a 356 swap meet in Mechanicsburg Pa.
on the ad there's a header: "More 911,912
stuff than in '77. New factory side pipes
for 924,928."
So there you go, factory pipes even.
JimV
for a 356 swap meet in Mechanicsburg Pa.
on the ad there's a header: "More 911,912
stuff than in '77. New factory side pipes
for 924,928."
So there you go, factory pipes even.
JimV
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Chris,
I (just me) tend to agree with you. Of course, were ANY of us "purists" we'd be driving that ultimate evolution of the Beetle, not these wonderful red-headed-black-sheep...
I think (once again,just my .02 of a Euro) that many people (just my read on the crowd and me) become a bit queasy when they see the 928 they love get the PepBoys/AutoZone "appearance package". Put on by a coupla kids with pliers,duct tape, and some sheet metal screws outta dad's tool box. Then painted with a brush and some latex paint from Ace. It's not that all mods are bad, it's the execution of the mod that counts. Some of the older 928s trade pretty low$ and as such, have become subjects of the brand of hacking that NO car should have to endure - except maybe Yugos and Trabants. And I'd bet a fair amount of cash that the side pipes were not of show quality.
When shopping for my car, I saw (briefly,then ran) one painted with a Wagner spray gun. They even painted the rubber spoilers. How could you not want to shed a tear at that sight?
I have seen hundreds of incredible custom cars in my life, many of which you could not pay me to drive. That doesn't take away from my appreciation of the craft and imagination that went in to them. But if you can't do it right, why bother to do it at all? Hell, I'd LOVE to see a 928 'art car'. Just done well, not by a coupla guys on a weekend bender.
BTW- The cowl induction sounds quite interesting, couldja post a photo when you get it going?
Greg
I (just me) tend to agree with you. Of course, were ANY of us "purists" we'd be driving that ultimate evolution of the Beetle, not these wonderful red-headed-black-sheep...
I think (once again,just my .02 of a Euro) that many people (just my read on the crowd and me) become a bit queasy when they see the 928 they love get the PepBoys/AutoZone "appearance package". Put on by a coupla kids with pliers,duct tape, and some sheet metal screws outta dad's tool box. Then painted with a brush and some latex paint from Ace. It's not that all mods are bad, it's the execution of the mod that counts. Some of the older 928s trade pretty low$ and as such, have become subjects of the brand of hacking that NO car should have to endure - except maybe Yugos and Trabants. And I'd bet a fair amount of cash that the side pipes were not of show quality.
When shopping for my car, I saw (briefly,then ran) one painted with a Wagner spray gun. They even painted the rubber spoilers. How could you not want to shed a tear at that sight?
I have seen hundreds of incredible custom cars in my life, many of which you could not pay me to drive. That doesn't take away from my appreciation of the craft and imagination that went in to them. But if you can't do it right, why bother to do it at all? Hell, I'd LOVE to see a 928 'art car'. Just done well, not by a coupla guys on a weekend bender.
BTW- The cowl induction sounds quite interesting, couldja post a photo when you get it going?
Greg
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Greg writes:
>>But if you can't do it right, why bother to do it at all?<<
Thanks for saying this, Greg! That's a philosophy I and many other people around Porsche's home in Stuttgart were raised with.
Isn't this philosophy is part of what makes a Porsche a Porsche sports car: Uncompromising performance and style (done right) - not show effects with no benefit for performance or style (done wrong)???
Most of you will agree: 25 years after it's introduction the 928 can still run with the best US cars and still looks up-to-date. Because Porsche kept the look simple and focused on the technology that benefits performance and handling.
The 928 was perfect for it's time. Now it's a classic. All you dan do is destroy it's authenticy. Please save the world from another butchered-up example!!!
>>But if you can't do it right, why bother to do it at all?<<
Thanks for saying this, Greg! That's a philosophy I and many other people around Porsche's home in Stuttgart were raised with.
Isn't this philosophy is part of what makes a Porsche a Porsche sports car: Uncompromising performance and style (done right) - not show effects with no benefit for performance or style (done wrong)???
Most of you will agree: 25 years after it's introduction the 928 can still run with the best US cars and still looks up-to-date. Because Porsche kept the look simple and focused on the technology that benefits performance and handling.
The 928 was perfect for it's time. Now it's a classic. All you dan do is destroy it's authenticy. Please save the world from another butchered-up example!!!
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LOL What's next, white walls on a Lamborghini Diablo or no, wait, wait, I got it....a low rider hydraulic system for the 360 Modena...(snap) I knew that car was missing something.
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