GT Jackson

My left passenger headlight deploys in the setback obstruction position. Am I to assume that the spring has gone bad and cannot overcome the knuckle assembly?

If anyone has a clear and concise understand of how this functions, I could use a little help.

Thanks

Gordon

Alan

I have no idea what you mean? left... passenger? spring?

Deploys means up ? if in the rotate up mode its in a different position than the other headlight you have a major shaft alignment issue... e.g. it must be loose on the motor shaft....?

I'm thinking you must mean something else ... but I'm not getting it...

Alan

Mrmerlin

any chance the roll pins either fell out or less likly sheared off of the control that crosses in the engine compartment , kinda lost on what your asking ,

GT Jackson

Yep, kind of confusing isn't it? Forget the lefty righty, I was standing in front of the car. I'll try again.

When the head light is deployed (up), there is a spring/knuckle assembly that allows the fixture to move rearward (back) an inch or so, in the event that the fixture encounters an obstruction. In the case of one fixture, it deploys (pops up) in the back position as if it had already been pushed back.

I can easily move it forward a inch or so by hand, with little ristance from the spring/knuckle assembly. On the other hand I cannot seem to make any sense out of the mechanics of how this is to really function by studying it. It appears to be assembled incorrectly as the spring is pulling it back rather than forward.

Anybody have a schematic of this or explanation? YIKES!

Thanks

Mike Frye

GT,

I just adjusted mine and I was perplexed as well.

My initial estimation of the function was the same as yours, but I couldn't get it to stay up, so I'm actually thinking that those are for when the headlights are down. You can adjust the stop nut inside the fender (after removing the fender liner) in case they aren't level when down. In this case, when the headlight is down, the spring will absorb a bit of play if there's up to an inch of difference between the bar turning and the headlight hitting the stop (if you can picture it).


I ended up adjusting the passenger headlight bar so that when it's up it matches the driver's side, then adjusting the set screw so they're level when down. I don't know if I did this right, but the spring being able to allow for about 1" of travel at the top doesn't seem to help much for obstructions anyway.

Check out a post by Randy V. about adjusting the headlights, it has a diagram with arrows pointing to the adjustment points.

HTH. Maybe when I get home I'll check the manual and see what it says.

Alan

Well its designed to work pretty much the opposite of what you said...

It doesn't "move back an inch or so..." - it moves upwards/forwards as much as you want (when the pod motor is down) In fact you can detach the pod from the carrier and rotate it all the way up without any motor movement - you can do this independently each side.

The spring detach is so that if - when the pods are rotating downwards - there is an obstruction (imagine a hand for example) the pods can detach from the carrier bolted to the motor arm. This is a safety feature to avoid possible injury - including getting trapped & also damage to the fender. The arm is not designed to detach going upward (e.g. it can only detach forward/above the carrier. That it detached suggests you have an obstruction on the other side not allowing that pod to fully rotate up OR that the pod carrier has slipped back on the motor drive shaft on the side you noted the problem on.

Presumably it detaches when the carrier reaches the end of its travel without the pod hitting the rubber end stops - momentum likely just keeps it going.

Alan

GT Jackson

Mike: Do you have a link to Randy's post?

Gordon

PS. Thanks' all for you patients, I still have yet to explain my problem correctly. Perhaps after more study I can better define the issue.

Alan

Gordon

With pods up - push the headlight back till it locks into the carrier - at this position does it align for lens face angle with the one on the other side? (e.g. hold a straight edge to the face). If yes - you may have a more minor issue... (though I would have though it would allow <1" movement...)

Take the wheel off - at least on the side most at issue - remove the wheel liner & splash shield and look at the mechanism - you will understand exactly what I mean on its operation - from above its very hard to comprehend how it works. try pushing the pod all the way up by hand...

So if the faces did align above - it could possibly be as simple as that your "up stop' rubber bumper is missing on that side... and it may just be lying inside the fender?

Alan

Mike Frye

Try this one:

https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ferrerid=45339

There was another one with a diagram and arrows pointing to the adjustment points, but this description is pretty complete.

GT Jackson

Alan: I do have the everything removed so that I have a clear view the pop=up assembly. Perhaps more simply, with the light in the up position, I can move the light forward a full 1" forward again by hand, overcoming what appears to be a spring and knuckle assembly. I cannot do this on the opposite side.

Not the original light in this position. Any possibility that this is a Euro adjustable?????

Gordon

Alan

No its not a Euro config. I have modified my cars headlights to Euro everything: H4's and electric adjusters and thats just not the way they work.

Try checking the lens angles (as noted) what do you find? the correct position to check is when clicked into place downwards/backwards.

When the pod is unclipped forwards/upwards it is just disengaged from the drive shaft/carriers - this is not an intended operating position (safety only)

If the lenses are not alighed in the clipped position your shaft connection has slipped - if they are aligned - your 'up-stop' adustment or bumpers are somehow wrong...

Take the other side off and compare what you see at the upper stops - they should be configured the same way... check how the adjuster looks between them.

Alan

GT Jackson

OK Thanks everyone. I have Randy's post and will go back to the garage. I just still do not understand the minor spring/knuckle movement nor its purpose.

Next brake pads!

Alan

Uhh - I give up !

AO

LOL!

GT Jackson

I got it! I got it! The replacement fixture was not installed correctly, so that when it deployed, it stopped short by about 1", point somewhat skyward. It could be moved forward that 1" until the rear portion contacted the stop on the fender. This gave the impression that there was a second detent in the deployment, when in fact it was the first staged of the light fixture breaking away from the carrier, as per the safety feature.

Well, I hope you now understand what I was trying to explain. And if you don't, tough luck. I'm off to bed.

Thanks to all who tried to assist.