pewter82

definately a buy, just for the fact of being the 7th offered for sale! Condition? who cares !

hacker-pschorr

Someone save this car. I'm sick of seeing these taken apart (no offense to sponsors who make a living doing this - many of those need to go...)

We need to start some kind of protection service, like Green Peace where we ride around saving OB's that deserve a second chance.

Dave H.

did you even look at the pics provided?

Vilhuer

I'll have to disagree on this based on recent data dug up from Carfax site. Normal production VIN's started from 0011 in '81 MY and 0051 in '82 MY. I see no reason why Porsche would have temporarily used smaller numbers. Instead I think '78-80 MY also started from 0011 or even smaller number.

In any case this is very early US model and only five or six earlier US cars are still known to exist. It was most likely made in August or September '77. At that time ROW car prodiction VIN's were going in 0750-0760 and Japanise in 9520-9530 ranges. This means factory had done over 800 cars when this one was made. This is 3rd US model that used second version of torque tube. In earlier tube center shaft was slightly longer and clamp between clutch and center shafts shorter. Newer style chaft came into use in VIN's ROW 0754, US 0055 and Japan 9523. There were many other changes to these early cars done during '78 MY. Some were done at same day to all markets while others were clearly done months apart. Based on few known '78 MY car build dates I believe TT shaft change to have happened at same time for all markets.

Too bad it has lost a lot of its originality and would need practically total rebuild.

pewter82

Its still an original car in my opinion, engine rebuilding and interior work aside. I doubt anyone would put the money in to this car to put it to Chuck Z standards, but a person could make it a nice car with some time and work.

Russ In Vegas

Has the owner of the vehicle come up with a price yet? It's a total project - I'll offer a grand if he/she will accept it.

Russ

3000teeth

I hear one thousand, one thousand to the man with two heads, gimme eleven hundred, do I hear eleven hundred...?

pearlpower

How much does he want for the Bowflex? Seems to be just sitting there.

Podguy

I am really confused by your entire post. The last four digits are the serial number. Are you saying there were negative serial numbers? Also someone mentioned a twin. I thought Porsche started with a number and then added one for each next car they produced. Therefore there should be no twin.

Can you explain.

Thanks

Dan the Pod Guy with #535

Podguy

I do not think the color is original. The black cars came with black interiors - not the cork or caramel inteiors. The caramel interior came with the Mocca Black (a dark brown), a root beer color and the color used in Risky Business. There was a blue and green with this interior.

Dan the Pod Guy

Russ In Vegas

Dan -

the reference of a "twin" vin number is in regards to the 5th digit of the vin... if the 5th digit is a '2', the car was made to import to the US... if the 5th digit is a '1', the car was made for Europe - So, there very well may be one somewhere in Europe(originally) with the vin # 928810057 instead of the US version vin# which on this car is 928820057 -

Podguy

Russ,

Are you sure on this? I know it is not true with the later cars where all of the cars were stamped with a ZZZ Vin number and then branded for the US with a special door sticker which did not include the ZZZ. I think this method started with the new VIN number style in 1980. So in this case 78 and 79 would be exceptions.

I am still confused on the actual production numbers. Some say the numbers shown on 928 Specialists web site are additive - total production for the year is ROW plus US.

If this were the case then there would be no numbers above 1070 for US 78 models. I know I have seen numbers higher than this and and no ROW numbers above 1584. Any one seen a US model 78 with a Serial number above 1070?

The numbers also suggest there are more 86 car than 87. This does not seem to be the case when looking at eBay.

Dan the Pod Guy

Russ In Vegas

Dan -

Am I sure on this? No, I was just elaborating on what another Renlist Member, Rixter, had posted. Either way, it's still a pretty low vin# - and my offer to buy this car still stands -

Russ

rixter

Yes there are "twin" vins and I can prove it, this changed in 1981 with introduction of the 17 digit universal vin system, after which all chassis are stamped as RoW then re-vinned for US importation with a non-ZZZ vin,
I'm not sure about twins in '80 as I havn't researched it, but I'm sure it's possible since 10 digit vin was still in use and 1 digit differentiates US vs RoW
I know of about 25 928s with a lower vin than this one, and I would ****** this car in a heartbeat if it was on the east coast....
of yeah, US vin# 51 is in the upper northwest

3000teeth

My '79 is original black w/ cork interior.