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Old 05-06-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Wet sand after paint job with pics

I got my car back from being re-painted about a week ago, and it of course had some orange peel. It looked fantastic at 3 feet, and in full length car photos, but if you got up close you could see the peel.

The guys that painted the car wet sanded (color sanded) it today, and what a difference that makes. I took some before and after pics as best I could using the macro feature of my camera (I'm not a photographer by any stretch).

Thought you guys might like to see.

You can see the peel in the pics below. See how the reflections are blurry.



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Below are some after pics...






Here's a pic down the side of the car...




Now the trick is not be scared to drive the car.
Old 05-06-2007, 01:49 AM
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you should replace your front bumper beading now.

The thing with perfect paint, is now all the little stuff really shows up. But thats a good problem to have.
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Yeah... it's mostly just trash in there. Most of that will clean up. I was just too much in a hurry to take pics before cleaning up. Although new bumper beading would give a real good finished look.
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The car needs a real professional buffing now as it still looks a bit dull. Tell them to get a polisher with a cutting agent and heat the paint up to blend it. A pro detailer should be able to do that. I am surprised the shop didn't do it for you. What level of paint job did you get? If you paid high dollar, go back down there and demand they do the job properly or get some money back. This should give you an idea of what the paint should look like after a pro paint job.



Don't get me wrong, it looks nice and it's a great color, but it's not done yet and don't let them tell you otherwise. Why would they have put the old beading back on? Wasn' the car dismantled and each panel sprayed seperately? The painter usually puts all of that in their pricing. A good way to save big bucks is to do it yourself. I gave them my car in pieces!

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This was a friend deal. Everything done after-hours, cash. I paid very little, and couldn't be happier. It's definitely not a $10K+ paint job, and someone in the business could easily pick it apart I'm sure. I'd say almost everyone else just sees a really nice looking car though. And that's all I wanted. I would never pay a ton of money for a paint job on a driver. Seems like such a waste to only get dings and rock chips again. Maybe if it was trailered to shows, but never on a driver.

I know my untrained eye doesn't catch the nuance of paint, but my cars' finish looks pretty mirror-like to me. I don't mind being dumb and happy. He did say to bring it back later in the week to re-buff it, for whatever reason. For what I paid, I'm very pleased. It could be that I just have low expectations.
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the car looks great remember that if you get the buffer out in a few weeks and cut it again it will get even wetter and soon you will be able to read the news paper in the paint.
It took me 3 times of buffing to get my car to look the way it does. Too bad the beading wasnt replaced you can do it on your own after you buff the paint a few more times or get some blue painters tape and cover all of the seams so compound wont fill the crevices and the window trim
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After I saw, in that pic, the trash in the beading I knew I'd catch hell from you guys. To redeem myself I'll have to clean it all up and post another pic afterwards. New beading would be ideal, but it really doesn't look too bad once it's cleaned up.
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There's no way I'd let a detailer touch my car with a buffer if the paint is less then 6 months old. Despite the fact that the paint is dry, it's not cured at this point. So it's still rather soft and takes a more delicate touch with the buffer. Considering what most cars look like after the "detailer" has touched them, there's no way I'd let them touch new paint. The reason they want you to bring it back in a week to re-buff it is because sometimes paint shrinks as it cures and when it does, sanding scratches that were thought to have been removed start to show up again.

Bumper beading is cheap. It should have been replaced.
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Maaan come on, this guy posted pics of his car because he's proud of the fact his car looks damn good going down the road now. He probably doesn't care otherwise.

It was painted. It was wet sanded. It doesn't look like ****.

Outlier, it looks great! You clean that beading! You don't have to buy a new one.
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No one can complain about a deal like that! As Stan said give it a week or so and get it hit again and it will show well. I'm glad to hear you didn't pay big money for a paint job as several others do, as that IS the norm. I wanted to make sure you got your moneys worth, cause these guys WILL take advantage of an unknowing owner. Mosquito, you need to take a pill dude, no one said anything about it looking like ****. It's just showing concern for a fellow 928'er.
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i really don't like to wet sand paint, i would try with clay first, always.

and yes, i wish i had that paint job it looks good
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What sandpaper grit do you begin with when wet sanding?
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Originally Posted by 928ntslow
No one can complain about a deal like that! As Stan said give it a week or so and get it hit again and it will show well. I'm glad to hear you didn't pay big money for a paint job as several others do, as that IS the norm. I wanted to make sure you got your moneys worth, cause these guys WILL take advantage of an unknowing owner. Mosquito, you need to take a pill dude, no one said anything about it looking like ****. It's just showing concern for a fellow 928'er.
I never claimed that anyone said it looked like ****. -_- I'm stating that the worst does not possibly exist.

I also don't take pills- I don't believe they are safe.
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I start with 1000 then 1500 then 2000. After that it gets a 3 stage compounding =alot of time. My car goes in about two weeks for total paint. cost = 800.00
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Originally Posted by ceedee
i really don't like to wet sand paint, i would try with clay first, always.

and yes, i wish i had that paint job it looks good
This is a new paint job. New paint jobs are almost ALWAYS wet sanded, unless it is a production body shop with cars going in-out within days and the car owner doesn't have a clue. Find me a painter that can paint today's high solid clears without some bit of peel or urethane wave, and I'll shut up. It's just not possible for it to lay perfectly slick. Show car paint jobs are always cut and buffed. Sand with 800-1000 first, then 1500, then 2000. Buff with twisted wool, cutting foam pad, then a finer foam pad. It's common practice.

Originally Posted by JHowell37
There's no way I'd let a detailer touch my car with a buffer if the paint is less then 6 months old. Despite the fact that the paint is dry, it's not cured at this point. So it's still rather soft and takes a more delicate touch with the buffer. Considering what most cars look like after the "detailer" has touched them, there's no way I'd let them touch new paint. The reason they want you to bring it back in a week to re-buff it is because sometimes paint shrinks as it cures and when it does, sanding scratches that were thought to have been removed start to show up again.

Bumper beading is cheap. It should have been replaced.
It is recommended to sand and buff clear after the clear has dried for 12-24 hours, as this is when it cuts and buffs the best. This is what professional restoration shops do. Yes, it does take practice and a delicate touch with a buffer, but almost every pro buffs the clear within a few days of spraying.

Paint job looks great; I see no wave in it, and the peel is virtually gone.


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