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Old 04-17-2007, 04:15 PM
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Okay to get some things straight about thrust bearing failure (yet again) or TBF. Please read below:

1. Thrust Bearing Failure is Possible on 928s.
-True

2. Thrust Bearing Failure happens on ALL 928s.
-False

3. There is a chance TBF will happen on a 928 that has had the torque tube replaced if torquing procedures of the pinch collar weren't adhered to.
-True

4. It takes 1-2 hours depending on how slow, drunk, lazy, tired, or any other chronic or hypochondric condition you are in to check and release the end play of the flex plate by dropping the exhaust and belly pans ONCE A YEAR.
-True

5. There is way too much SCARE about thrust bearing failure on 928s in this forum.

TRUE, TRUE, and TRUE.

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The ONLY 5 speed I know to have thrust bearing failure was one of Mark's race engines with an aftermarket clutch which made it possible to out too much pressure on the bearing. The early auto torque tubes had a snap ring and shims on the end which prevented the flex plate collar from sliding but Porsche discontinued this practice and then we began to see such failures ...and we hear about a several every year. But we have 50,000 + contacts in our data base between owners, shops, dealers etc....little happens that we do not hear about !
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Jim, did you hear about... 3 engineers go into a bar, one from Toyota,
one from GM and one from Porsche....


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Okay to get some things straight about thrust bearing failure (yet again) or TBF. Please read below:
Who the hell are you talking to man?...yourself?

1. Thrust Bearing Failure is Possible on 928s.
-True
Yes, but not all...so kind of true

2. Thrust Bearing Failure happens on ALL 928s.
-False
See question 1...you kind of answered your own question before you asked it.

3. There is a chance TBF will happen on a 928 that has had the torque tube replaced if torquing procedures of the pinch collar weren't adhered to.
-True
That could be said for ANY procedure on ANY car in the world

4. It takes 1-2 hours depending on how slow, drunk, lazy, tired, or any other chronic or hypochondric condition you are in to check and release the end play of the flex plate by dropping the exhaust and belly pans ONCE A YEAR.
-True
FALSE. You cannot foresee WHAT kind of issues you may encounter on ANY procedure done on ANY car. In directly addressing the coupling, providing the correct tools are being used, a lift or not, no seized nuts/bolts,and a slew of other probables, this job could take from 30 minutes to who the hell knows when.

5. There is way too much SCARE about thrust bearing failure on 928s in this forum.
TRUE, TRUE, and TRUE.
Only because of posts such as this when someone gets on this board in either an uneducated state or after sniffing Brake Kleen too long...or what ever your poison is.

Thank you for reading
Thank you for wasting band width.
Old 04-17-2007, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 928ntslow


Quote:
Okay to get some things straight about thrust bearing failure (yet again) or TBF. Please read below:

Who the hell are you talking to man?...yourself?

Quote:
1. Thrust Bearing Failure is Possible on 928s.
-True

Yes, but not all...so kind of true

Quote:
2. Thrust Bearing Failure happens on ALL 928s.
-False

See question 1...you kind of answered your own question before you asked it.

Quote:
3. There is a chance TBF will happen on a 928 that has had the torque tube replaced if torquing procedures of the pinch collar weren't adhered to.
-True

That could be said for ANY procedure on ANY car in the world

Quote:
4. It takes 1-2 hours depending on how slow, drunk, lazy, tired, or any other chronic or hypochondric condition you are in to check and release the end play of the flex plate by dropping the exhaust and belly pans ONCE A YEAR.
-True

FALSE. You cannot foresee WHAT kind of issues you may encounter on ANY procedure done on ANY car. In directly addressing the coupling, providing the correct tools are being used, a lift or not, no seized nuts/bolts,and a slew of other probables, this job could take from 30 minutes to who the hell knows when.

Quote:
5. There is way too much SCARE about thrust bearing failure on 928s in this forum.
TRUE, TRUE, and TRUE.

Only because of posts such as this when someone gets on this board in either an uneducated state or after sniffing Brake Kleen too long...or what ever your poison is.

Quote:
Thank you for reading

Thank you for wasting band width..


I swear the Pac NW weather has turned Keith into a cranky old fuddy-duddy...
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Yeah Keith - lighten up wouldya...

the sun will come out eventually... honest it will

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Damn...where are those smileys when ya need' em?

Sorry, I was just trying to get inside what this thread was about...thought it was one of those throw some nonsense out there and pick off the natives as they run down the path.

(..no sun... HA!...you guys ...lighten up HA! ...I'll show you the sun...I'll show ya where the sun don't shine! ...HAAAAA!!!)
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Originally Posted by Mongo
Okay to get some things straight about thrust bearing failure (yet again) or TBF. Please read below:

1. Thrust Bearing Failure is Possible on 928s.
-True

2. Thrust Bearing Failure happens on ALL 928s.
-False

3. There is a chance TBF will happen on a 928 that has had the torque tube replaced if torquing procedures of the pinch collar weren't adhered to.
-True

4. It takes 1-2 hours depending on how slow, drunk, lazy, tired, or any other chronic or hypochondric condition you are in to check and release the end play of the flex plate by dropping the exhaust and belly pans ONCE A YEAR.
-True

5. There is way too much SCARE about thrust bearing failure on 928s in this forum.

TRUE, TRUE, and TRUE.

Thank you for reading
It's a good reminder post to check the TB at my next car service since it's been a few years since it was checked.

But I also wanted to say I loved you in Blazing Saddles.
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Originally Posted by Mongo
Okay to get some things straight about thrust bearing failure (yet again) or TBF. Please read below:


5. There is way too much SCARE about thrust bearing failure on 928s in this forum.

TRUE, TRUE, and TRUE.

Thank you for reading
As a guy who suffered through a TBF, I would say that your statement is false. If your car suffers a TBF, you'll know why owners are scared about it. If you take the necessary precautions, then you can pretty much limit the possible risk. But as these cars get older, more miles, and new owners come into the group, its definitely something to be wary of. Its not really an issue of being scared about it as much as it is of being aware of the potential problem and how to prevent it. When I bought my car, it was a couple of years before I even heard of Rennlist. And even after that I never heard of a TBF, until it happened to me. But thankfully, the 928 community seems to be growing and the average owner far more educated about such issues. That will hopefully help to prevent further catastrophic failures in the future.
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Forget the meds, give Mongo more beans... Mongo love beans
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Old 04-17-2007, 10:53 PM
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You ever live it? IMO, tbf is something real easy to hide. people need to be aware of it. my 89 after the pressure was released the car ran fine, but was out of spec 4X.... I could have kept my mouth shut played dumb and sold the car. Also too many people do not check for it annually.. I think the posts about it are a good thing.

Originally Posted by Mongo
Okay to get some things straight about thrust bearing failure (yet again) or TBF. Please read below:

1. Thrust Bearing Failure is Possible on 928s.
-True

2. Thrust Bearing Failure happens on ALL 928s.
-False

3. There is a chance TBF will happen on a 928 that has had the torque tube replaced if torquing procedures of the pinch collar weren't adhered to.
-True

4. It takes 1-2 hours depending on how slow, drunk, lazy, tired, or any other chronic or hypochondric condition you are in to check and release the end play of the flex plate by dropping the exhaust and belly pans ONCE A YEAR.
-True

5. There is way too much SCARE about thrust bearing failure on 928s in this forum.

TRUE, TRUE, and TRUE.

Thank you for reading


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