PSD service...I NEED HELP!
#17
Tim,
If you have no power when in the car check the dedicated fuse & relay for the PSD - behind the plastic cover above and in front of (car) the battery box. This is fed directly from the battery - not connected through the main fuse panel.
Alan
If you have no power when in the car check the dedicated fuse & relay for the PSD - behind the plastic cover above and in front of (car) the battery box. This is fed directly from the battery - not connected through the main fuse panel.
Alan
#18
And one other item....
The ABS and PSD system share a single control unit and the PSD uses the ABS wheel speed sensors. If there is an ABS fault the PSD system will shut off.
Do you have ABS faults?
The ABS and PSD system share a single control unit and the PSD uses the ABS wheel speed sensors. If there is an ABS fault the PSD system will shut off.
Do you have ABS faults?
#19
Alan, thanks that's the answer to #1
Andrew, you might have something there with a possible obstruction.
As for ABS Faults? not that I know of. The car has been parked for several months.
I'm a bit confused by the flush procedure because in the version I downloaded it instructed to open the bleader valve and then reconnect the power to the pump with the ingition key in the second position, then the new fluid would start to move through the system. This is differen from what Dave C was saying. Probubly doesn't make much difference as the pump should...pump.
I will resolve this eventually. in the meantime Happy Easter,Passover, ect. to everyone.
Cheers
Tim
Andrew, you might have something there with a possible obstruction.
As for ABS Faults? not that I know of. The car has been parked for several months.
I'm a bit confused by the flush procedure because in the version I downloaded it instructed to open the bleader valve and then reconnect the power to the pump with the ingition key in the second position, then the new fluid would start to move through the system. This is differen from what Dave C was saying. Probubly doesn't make much difference as the pump should...pump.
I will resolve this eventually. in the meantime Happy Easter,Passover, ect. to everyone.
Cheers
Tim
#20
Originally Posted by steaditim
... with the ingition key in the second position, then the new fluid would start to move through the system. This is differen from what Dave C was saying. Probubly doesn't make much difference as the pump should...pump.
So #2 (On) is correct.
The pump should run until the pressure switch's threshold is reached if the ignition is on. If you have released the pressure from the solenoid, and with the ignition on, the pump does not run or make any sound at all when connected then obviously there's an issue. I would think that either the pump isn't getting power or it is dead. Or perhaps the pressure switch is dead and telling the pump not to run. Otherwise, I would think that the pump would make some kind of noise when powered even if there was some blockage?
Power to the pump runs through the relay. The relay is switched on or off by the pressure switch. So, if you are bench testing the pump with direct 12v and it makes no noises of any kind, I would think that's a good indication that the pump is dead?
#21
Originally Posted by steaditim
I'm a bit confused by the flush procedure because in the version I downloaded it instructed to open the bleader valve and then reconnect the power to the pump with the ingition key in the second position, then the new fluid would start to move through the system. This is differen from what Dave C was saying. Probubly doesn't make much difference as the pump should...pump.
So, to re-summarize:
- Run the pump with the bleeder open until the fluid is clear.
- Then you close the bleeder and bleed the accumulator as in my previous post and as described in steps #18 through #20 until the fluid is clear.
#22
Hey Dave:
That's where I'm at right now. Bench testing, power applied, pump runs, but doesn't flow fluid with the bleeder open as suggested in my version of directions. However the directions are for the unit still installed in the car with the "control cable still connected".
I'm just going to reinstall the whole system and try it all again.
T
That's where I'm at right now. Bench testing, power applied, pump runs, but doesn't flow fluid with the bleeder open as suggested in my version of directions. However the directions are for the unit still installed in the car with the "control cable still connected".
I'm just going to reinstall the whole system and try it all again.
T
#23
Originally Posted by steaditim
... Bench testing, power applied, pump runs, but doesn't flow fluid with the bleeder open as suggested in my version of directions. However the directions are for the unit still installed in the car with the "control cable still connected".
The only other connection is - I think - the connector for the pressure switch. Right? (You have it on a bench I don't.)
I'm with Andrew: blockage?
#25
Louis Ott Procedure:
https://928srus.com/pages/psd-fluid-flushing-procedure
Porsche TSB info and other helpful proceedures
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hYv...usp=drive_link
Porsche Overview of PSD system
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tYz...usp=drive_link
Porsche Tech Specs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S9y...usp=drive_link
https://928srus.com/pages/psd-fluid-flushing-procedure
Porsche TSB info and other helpful proceedures
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hYv...usp=drive_link
Porsche Overview of PSD system
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tYz...usp=drive_link
Porsche Tech Specs
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1S9y...usp=drive_link
Last edited by Michael Benno; 05-12-2024 at 01:35 AM.
The following 2 users liked this post by Michael Benno:
928 GT R (05-20-2024),
Bertrand Daoust (05-12-2024)
#26
Louise and John method
If the pump runs it should cut out when it has built enough pressure in the pressure reservoire.
If it runs but does not cut out it indicates the pump may be toast and unable to build the pressure or pump the brake fluid.
This typically would happend if the pump has been run with not enough break fluid in the fluid reservoir.
Some people says it might help loosen the whole assembly and shake/twist it to help the pump start priming, it never helped on mine.
So I ended up buying a functional second hand unit and it all now works.
(I also followed the excellent write up from Louise and John)
Really hope you can make it work
/Peter
If it runs but does not cut out it indicates the pump may be toast and unable to build the pressure or pump the brake fluid.
This typically would happend if the pump has been run with not enough break fluid in the fluid reservoir.
Some people says it might help loosen the whole assembly and shake/twist it to help the pump start priming, it never helped on mine.
So I ended up buying a functional second hand unit and it all now works.
(I also followed the excellent write up from Louise and John)
Really hope you can make it work
/Peter
thx
The following 2 users liked this post by Michael Benno:
928 GT R (05-20-2024),
John Veninger (05-12-2024)