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Old 03-30-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Suddenly no 1st, 3rd, or reverse. Why??

I am posting this for CeeDee. He is currently driving home with only a few gears. He said that he lost 1st, 3rd and reverse. If he tries to put the gearshift lever in any of these positions it will pop out when he releases the clutch. The other gears work fine. He can also get it into 3rd on a downshift from 4th.

Any ideas???????
Old 03-30-2007, 06:17 PM
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Probably the gear mechanismm locator cup at the front is falling apart. Tell him to try to get it into gear using 2 hands on the stick (I know tricky) OR grab the stick in the middle (not by the **** on top) and pull it into gear managing the angle of the stick to be as intended - see if that helps?

basically when the cup falls apart your pivot point gets out of whack - or in the worst case is totally gone... BTDT

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Old 03-30-2007, 06:34 PM
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It's downright unnatural, that 2-hands-on-your-stcik thing. maybe he can have the GF help?
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H yeah yeah yeah ....

We all know youve got a passenger ready to look after your stick at a monents notice!

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Old 03-30-2007, 07:18 PM
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thank you fabio.
\i just got home and took a few pics of what it looks like under there.
seems fine but i haven't been under the car, yet

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The ballcup he is talking about is on top of the TT towards the front of the car. It cannot be seen from inside the car, and you can only see a glimmer of it from underneath the car.
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Move the lever if the forward rod moves...the socket poped off the ball.
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Yep, you'll need to drop the exhaust and heat sheild to replace.... unless your arms are very very thin. New cup/rod end is way pricey.....

See my previous question answered here

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look what i found under the dust cap. i think this is why it isn't working.

it is called a shift rod coupling. or better the rubber bushing. now where can i find one? autozone?

this is what it looks like

any ideas?

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Originally Posted by EC928NC
Yep, you'll need to drop the exhaust and heat sheild to replace.... unless your arms are very very thin. New cup/rod end is way pricey.....

See my previous question answered here
Don't have to drop he exhaust, there is enough room if you dissconnect the catalytic rubber hanger and remove one or both heat shields. Can't remember, it's been a while but I remember that the exhaust stayed on and my arms are anything but skiny...... they are more of the "big bonned" variety! and the coupler is not what's on the pic. As said above, it's located towards the front, on the top of the TT. The coupler in the pic is the rear one. Thisis pretty time consuming but not expensive. There are several ways of removing the cup. Nichol's site had a good write up. I used a very small pipe wrench (I think it was suggested in oen of those write ups). Good luck !
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alright got it all sorted out.
didn't have to take anything off . but the dustcover. (the only casualty, apart from the bushings)
i went to an autoparts store and bought bushings that had the same outside size as the old bushing
then i drilled the inside to fit the same as the old bushing.

now. the new bushing is not as hard of a rubber. so i don't think it will keep up for another 30 years.
maybe just a year. or a week. but now i know how to tackle it and i'll venture out and get some hard bushings that will fit exacly.

case closed
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oh BTW it was in the back right, in front of the tranny.
above the torque tube . very easy to reach
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So is it fixed? And more importantly, are you still coming over in the morning?
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Hmm I replaced the front cup a couple years ago and still have a very loose shifter, maybe, just like you, my rear coupler is toast too. Good thing to know that its easy to get to. I'll look at it in a few days!
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Originally Posted by heinrich
It's downright unnatural, that 2-hands-on-your-stcik thing. maybe he can have the GF help?

wha? you mean having to use two hands to hold it is not the norm?



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