I got challenged by a few 911s..
03-16-2007, 06:49 PM
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OK thanks, I've had a lot of track days for poor people. So hacker is talking about driving 101 and Jim is talking about fear. I'd like to drive with you guys on a track, that would be fun.
03-16-2007, 06:57 PM
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Listen, we were not talking track racing. It was purely power related 0-60 etc. Ed keeps saying I was calling him out so to speak and I still stand behind my statements. The 5spd s4 will reach 60 by 5.5 and faster in the right hands, which would be mine. The 84 3.2 ,and I have done it, gets 6.3-6.5 wringing it out. This is a world of diff.I have even gotten 5.9 out of an auto s4. And to boot, after 60 it would be a total killing. So if you want to run an s4, and the driver knows what he is doing, you better have a 3.0 turbo at least or a 3.6 n/a. I'm just sayin....
03-16-2007, 07:00 PM
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Right say you are traveling 132 feet per second and need to figure out when to brake how hard you can brake clutch rev the engine downshift turn and be back on the gas all right at the limit of traction for that corner as you enter....If you are following someone into a corner and he hits his brakes to slow for the corner street driving habit is you step on the brakes but track driving you wait for your brake point seems simple but hard to unlearn old habits. Using all the track not just "your side" goes against street habits as well . Rick makes an excellent point as well tunnel vision focus on the corner you are going around often leaves you all crossed up for the next corner. And 99% will turn into a corner too early or whip the wheel too quickly with the resultatant tire squeel testiment to the fact that they are really driving" FAST"....as they run out of race track on the corner exit scrubbing off speed with the front end understeering.
03-16-2007, 08:01 PM
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Now parts of that post is what I was looking for. The technical bits of grabbing the right line. Thanks. As to speed and to being aware of your surroundings, I consider that basic stuff and on a track much more relaxing.
03-16-2007, 08:05 PM
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As to speed and to being aware of your surroundings, I consider that basic stuff and on a track much more relaxing.
03-16-2007, 08:09 PM
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By tv: I consider that basic stuff and on a track much more relaxing.
03-16-2007, 09:26 PM
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I try to avoid talking about speed because I am a serious driver with lots of experience and only drive quickly on deserted country roads or highways that are well maintained and not busy. If you followed the link above in one of my posts you would see a pic.
That was just one of countless occasions in over 20 years of driving fast cars (safely) where I gained experience. That day was a 30 mile drive during which the ford gt hit x70 and we all got off the same exit at the same time. Accelerating next to a diablo at redline in 3rd of a 4 speed auto euro is living a little. I have just never done track stuff. My point is I know how to control a car, shift, brake, and avoid dumb moves. And quotes of speed numbers mean little. I don't put anyone else nor myself at risk. But I would like to do some track driving in the future.
That was just one of countless occasions in over 20 years of driving fast cars (safely) where I gained experience. That day was a 30 mile drive during which the ford gt hit x70 and we all got off the same exit at the same time. Accelerating next to a diablo at redline in 3rd of a 4 speed auto euro is living a little. I have just never done track stuff. My point is I know how to control a car, shift, brake, and avoid dumb moves. And quotes of speed numbers mean little. I don't put anyone else nor myself at risk. But I would like to do some track driving in the future.
03-16-2007, 09:40 PM
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I didn't mean to offend or sound smug but there is no comparison to tracking a car. Before hitting a track I knew I was a great driver. I grew up and learned to drive in snow country on dirt roads, even out ran the cops a few times. Well guess what, it is very humbling to get on a track with experienced drivers and try to stay the hell out of their way. The difference between spirited street driving and track driving is like the difference between high school ball and pro ball.
There are more and more opportunities to get on a track nowdays. You owe it to yourself to give it a shot.
There are more and more opportunities to get on a track nowdays. You owe it to yourself to give it a shot.
03-16-2007, 11:53 PM
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I'm stoked- next Friday will be my first track experience (@ Summit Point). I do fancy myself to be a very "capable" backroads driver- as much performance as a public road will allow @ 8&9/10 driving. In some aspects, these sessions challenge your skills equally, in that there are more distractions, debris, blind hills,& corners, etc. At the track, I anticipate that each subsequent lap will be an improvement on the last( to a point). You're gaining instant feedback & experience, and presumably will get into a groove after awhile. I respect it though,knowing that one can never truly master the skills, much like golf-one of my other pleasures.
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