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Old 02-20-2007, 08:41 AM
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hey if you cant get the plug loose try getting a torch and heating the surrounding area you might see smoke from the drain plug but after heating then try using the the short allen key if that doesnt work then go the hit the plug on the side with the hammer/chisle this should breake it free
Old 02-20-2007, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by ceedee
looks all fancy? i better not go to the shop and tell em i need the 'fancy lookin' 17 mil socket'. they'd send me to sears where bob villa buys his ****.
It is Snap-On..... Ok, so maybe it's not all that fancy. I'm up early!!!!

It's just very shallow - just enough on one end to fill the plug, and just enough on the socket end to hold the wrench:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....group_ID=19859

Friend of mine has one of these:
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....&group_ID=1555
Old 02-20-2007, 09:15 AM
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I sometimes use a product called 'Rost Off Ice', made by Wurth. It basically works in the same way as heating, but it actually freezes the bolt/nut/plug that you spray it onto to break the corrosions hold. It also contains a penetrant.
I've used it on other aluminium parts in the past, and it worked a treat.
Old 02-20-2007, 09:23 AM
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Try to tighten it just a very little bit first. Then use the Snap on allen to take it out. Its worth a try.
Old 02-20-2007, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 928saregreat
If your really stuck you can fill from the drain using a decent devac tool. Are you doing this in your driveway or in a shop and do you have airtools? I've done this many times with manuals where the fill is a seized speedo cable. Just hold the devac tool hose in with a rag held firmly around it and pump in the correct amount into the manual, remembering to account for spillage. If you don't have airtools Lordco up here sell a hand pump devac to use on the mercedes smart car. Those little diesels don't have a drainplug by the way. Its good to have someone helping you, preferably with old clothes on...

Its better to get the check plug out but if its really stuck this has worked for me many times.

Mark
I suppose that WOULD work, but IMO, that kind of thinking and project completion is what has decreased the value of many a 928....sorry, but that's my perception. That is just another form of deferred maintenance.
Old 02-20-2007, 09:59 AM
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I have to agree with Ed
Old 02-20-2007, 10:01 AM
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best results i have had have been with an allen wrench and breaker
Old 02-20-2007, 10:43 AM
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The part number for the 3/8 drive Snap-On drain plug 17 MM socket is cpt110a. This one is what we use at my shop.
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http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item....re&dir=catalog

I think they also make one in 1/2 drive, but we have never needed it.

The Wurth rust off is ok, but if you ever use InForce by BG you will never use any other penetrating oil again.

I can not remember if there is room for a hammer type impact in there or not, but a good hammer driven impact (read Snap-On) will get them out when nothing else nondestrutive will.

If you have a way to heat the cover and not the plug that might help also, just do not get it to hot, say 350 or so.

they also make a wrench for this, 21 MM box/ 17 MM external hex. I have never used this one, but I know mechanics that do use them.
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Old 02-20-2007, 11:48 AM
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What's the preferred diff oil for a climate like Indiana? I don't have the manual, what's the capacity?
Old 02-20-2007, 11:59 AM
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capacity manual 78-85 3.8 liters 86> 4.5 liters automatic diff is 2.7 liters up to 87 then aprox 3 liters. And yes you want to remove the fill plug FIRST. taking of the rear diff cover is easy and allows you to work on the stuck drain plug on the workbench or with air/power tools. The gasket is just a thin paper gasket nothing special...
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I have a similar problem except I can't get the drain plug off. I have an allen socket and a 3' breaker bar, and tried a 300ft-lb torque wrench to no avail.

What do you think about using a gasket maker (silicone) when putting the cover back on?
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The diff rear cover gasket is $2.00 or you can make one yourself
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Originally Posted by tomcat
I have a similar problem except I can't get the drain plug off. I have an allen socket and a 3' breaker bar, and tried a 300ft-lb torque wrench to no avail.
Remember:

Righty - Tighty
Lefty - Loosy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...ty+lefty+loosy

Hey, you never know
Old 02-20-2007, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Remember:

Righty - Tighty
Lefty - Loosy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/defin...ty+lefty+loosy

Hey, you never know
****...now i know why the car flipped over on the roof , when i tried to losen it... lol
Old 02-20-2007, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey
The diff rear cover gasket is $2.00 or you can make one yourself
I've been (and always have been) lazy. I've tried to make a list of things to order along with the gasket but keep putting it off. I thought it might be easier to sell the oil.

Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
Remember:

Righty - Tighty
Lefty - Loosy
Are you sure? Don't the directions change when you're upside down?


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