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Old 01-15-2007, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
From Big Dave's book of auto repair:

If it's not broken - fix it until it is!
I actually got that quote from a local politician describing her take on our city counsel. It's something to remember each time you ask yourself....do I really want to pull that apart?
Old 01-15-2007, 03:01 PM
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NAPA quoted me $150/ea. for the Bosch!

I was surprised that the LIAPS had a better retail price than my friends shop price, for the same item, from the same wholesaler. (32 vs. 38)


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Old 01-15-2007, 03:35 PM
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this is the second time i have heard about this happening
Old 01-15-2007, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by PorKen
NAPA quoted me $150/ea. for the Bosch!

I was surprised that the LIAPS had a better retail price than my friends shop price, for the same item, from the same wholesaler. (32 vs. 38)


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Halsey is a good place to get 928 stuff in the Portland, OR, area. Also try Sunset Porsche/Audi in Beaverton. The have surprisingly good prices sometimes even though a bona fide P car dealer.
Old 01-15-2007, 05:08 PM
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How did the Hüco's work out? I just had one die on my S4 but when searching Rennlist for "Huco" some of the 944 guys had problems with them. I ended up buying a $50 Bosch used one at 928Intl.
Old 01-15-2007, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Larry Velk
I can't believe our units get that hot based on where they are. Heat must be internal. On the Fords I don't know which way they expected the heat to flow - the engine had to be hotter than the chips -
The heat is internally generated by the chips. They are MOSFET power amplifiers. They get pretty darn hot. That's why they need that big heat sink block and the paste. Without the heat sink they'd probably fry in a few hours.

Some interested party could probably google up the specs for them.
Old 01-15-2007, 07:38 PM
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Man, don't fix what ain't broked.

It's running, but now it surges when the idle changes. Putting it into gear, or coming to a stop as it shifts 2-1. It was so nice, before I messed w/it.

I'm not sure now if it's the Huco cheapies, or the reference sensor which I took out to see it it had collected any metal shavings (hadn't), and put back. It did take some doing to get it out though.

Originally Posted by jcb928
How did the Hüco's work out? I just had one die on my S4 but when searching Rennlist for "Huco" some of the 944 guys had problems with them. I ended up buying a $50 Bosch used one at 928Intl.
Old 01-15-2007, 09:13 PM
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Worldpac I found, Sunset I know about, what are these other places Halsey, SAVE, etc.?
Old 01-20-2007, 07:29 PM
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Still bad running. I want to replace the reference sensor, anyway, so I'm going to replace that first. I'm afraid it may be the cheap amps, though. If the sensor doesn't fix it, then I'm getting Bosch amps.

BTW: I hope I'm not stepping on any sponsor toes, but I ordered from a 'closeout' on eBay, $50 + shipping ($9.20 for me). No affiliation, blah, blah. There were (14) left when I checked out.

(eBay sensor)
Old 01-20-2007, 07:41 PM
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Porken,

I have a pir left from the parts car (86.5). If interested send me a PM.
Old 01-20-2007, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hacker-Pschorr
From Big Dave's book of auto repair:

If it's not broken - fix it until it is!
I learned long ago, as an Engineer... the motto is; "If it ain't broke, it don't have enough features!"


Originally Posted by Larry Velk
Big recall on Fords for failure of the ignition module on the distributor.
I sold auto parts for a while many, many years ago... and those ignition modules were hot sellers! They were on everything from trucks, to mustangs, to Escorts.... They were mounted inside the distributor and bolted to the aluminum distributor housing with two bolts. The package included a small tube of dielectric grease.

We learned later that the hot ticket was to ensure the mounting surface was roughed up. The aluminum oxidizes quickly, and the oxidation itself is a big barrier to the thermal transfer. So, I'd the technique was to sand the surface with heavy grit paper, spread an even layer of the grease, then bolt down the module. Dielectric will stop the future oxidation because it is a barrier itself. HTH...

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Bumping this to give a little bit of knowledge from the PC gaming world (my day job) where we dump 250w out of high end video cards via a very small interface to the heatsink.

If you redo this, get Arctic Silver 5. Its the best, reasonably priced compound and in my years of use in high heat video cards its never gone hard on me. These cards see a lot of heat cycles to 85C or more. This stuff should not glue everything together even after years of use. A 3.5g tube is plenty.

https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver...rctic+silver+5
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Originally Posted by Arominus
Bumping this to give a little bit of knowledge from the PC gaming world (my day job) where we dump 250w out of high end video cards via a very small interface to the heatsink.

If you redo this, get Arctic Silver 5. Its the best, reasonably priced compound and in my years of use in high heat video cards its never gone hard on me. These cards see a lot of heat cycles to 85C or more. This stuff should not glue everything together even after years of use. A 3.5g tube is plenty.

https://www.amazon.com/Arctic-Silver...rctic+silver+5
How do they stand up to fluctuations between -30C and +100C temperatures.
Old 11-25-2016, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Imo000
How do they stand up to fluctuations between -30C and +100C temperatures.
90C is a pretty common number to hit with thermal compound for PCs, at least with video cards and some AMD chips (looking at you 9590).

My GTX 690 has a tdp of 300 watts and can get pretty toasty if the fan isn't cranked. It will sit at 70C+ pretty comfortably along with my processor, both using Arctic 5.

The -C numbers are common too as some competitive overclockers use liquid nitrogen to cool their CPU and GPUs along with some users using phase change cooling (imagine a AC evaporator as a metal plate mounted flush to your CPU).

Anyway, this isn't a PC forum, but there shouldn't be any issues with CPU thermal compound so long as you replace it every 3 years or so to keep it fresh.
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Originally Posted by PorKen
It's running, but now it surges when the idle changes.
Note for posterity on this 9 year old thread - the problem (would not rev over 3000 rpm and a bad idle) turned out to be running non-resistor plugs (moar spark bro) with Hüco (Hueco) amps.

Bosch amps, which have a steel heat sink/back plate, apparently handle noise better than the Hüco which have aluminum heat sinks.


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