Broke something - How Serious? (emissions test port - RV)
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When putting my intake (outer part) on my '85 I broke off one of the tubes that are attached to the aft part of the "oil collector". Just tried to plug it with duct tape (metal tape) to seal it but I don't know how well it's sealed. Went for a drive and it seemed to be fine.
Any suggestions on what to do? I really don't know what to seal the broken end with since its right next to the head where it meets the block.
Any suggestions on what to do? I really don't know what to seal the broken end with since its right next to the head where it meets the block.
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John,
If you're talking about the CO tubes, just crimp it and cap it wherever it is. Someone else had the same problem a short time ago and the consensus was that unless your DMV uses these to test emissions, they're about worthless.
If you're talking about the CO tubes, just crimp it and cap it wherever it is. Someone else had the same problem a short time ago and the consensus was that unless your DMV uses these to test emissions, they're about worthless.
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Not really an oil collector. The outer part of the intake (i.e., outboard of the 10 rubber connectors). When you take them off, to get to the valve covers, there is usually oil in them.
JHowell37, what is that in your avatar?
JHowell37, what is that in your avatar?
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Originally Posted by tomcat
Not really an oil collector. The outer part of the intake (i.e., outboard of the 10 rubber connectors). When you take them off, to get to the valve covers, there is usually oil in them.
JHowell37, what is that in your avatar?
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Ohhh man! I had a good laugh when I read you last post and I can see how it can be mistaken for something like an oil seperator. That's sipmply the end tank for the intake manifold system. Yes they do collect oil but that's just a side effect of how they were deigned. If every once in a while you let the engine go up to redline it will clear out the oil from the end tanks.
The Co2 tubes can be just crimped, welded shut, or just insert something to plug it.
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Originally Posted by Imo000
The Co2 tubes can be just crimped, welded shut, or just insert something to plug it.
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These are bolted onto the exhaust manifolds, and one of mine was completely rusted through. If they are letting air in, they could be affecting the performance of the 02 sensor, since it's unmeasured air, so it could help a rough idle or emissions issues. I just removed them completely, and used the stock fitting on the manifold plus a ball bearing to seal it up. Unfortunately I wasn't wise enough to record what size ball bearing, but just take one of the fittings to a hardware store. On the '89 and later that don't come with those, there is an OEM fitting you can purchase to seal it up - 930 113 153 00 according to the PET. The passenger side fitting is easy to get at, but the drivers side is a pain, if the drivers side is intact might just leave it. I hate those things anyway when getting the filter box back on, so I just pulled them both. Don't forget to put something in the hole in the airbox for those mount bolts from the ports, those are underneath the air filter, best to keep any dirt from getting in through there.
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I wonder if an E 0.01 coin would fit under the cap in place of the sample tube? They are 16mm or 5/8." I have been told a lug nut will fit over the nipple but a cleaner look IMO would be to put the cap back on over a sturdy metal disk.
I have a punch at work and make different sized disks anytime also. If you know the size offhand please post it. Thanks!
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I have a punch at work and make different sized disks anytime also. If you know the size offhand please post it. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
I wonder if an E 0.01 coin would fit under the cap in place of the sample tube? They are 16mm or 5/8" I have been told a lug nut will fit over the nipple but a cleaner look IMO would be to put the cap back on over a sturdy metal disk.
I have a punch at work and make different sized disks anytime also. If you know the size offhand please post it. Thanks!
-Joel.
I have a punch at work and make different sized disks anytime also. If you know the size offhand please post it. Thanks!
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I didn't measure anything, like a twit.
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But I think a BB will seal it better, and the only time you're going to see it is if you are under the car, and you can only see the passenger side anyway (remember my comment about the driver side being a pain?
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Originally Posted by Imo000
If every once in a while you let the engine go up to redline it will clear out the oil from the end tanks.
This reminds me of a frined that had a brand new 993 Targa some years ago. He was driving 70 in a 45. When the cop pulled him over he told the cop his Porsche can't drive 45. He's from NY so done with attitude. Cop let him off with a warning.
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Originally Posted by fabric
........ If they are letting air in, they could be affecting the performance of the 02 sensor, since it's unmeasured air, so it could help a rough idle or emissions issues.....
Sorry but you got the theory wrong. Metered air is in the intake and not the exhaust system. Now if you mean the O2 sensor and that it will read less air, then it still doesn't matter casue the sensor doesn't measure volume but the % of O2 in the exhaust gases.
I personally woudln't spend $50+sh on replacement tubes. Just cap them somehow and that's it.
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Originally Posted by Jfrahm
I wonder if an E 0.01 coin would fit under the cap in place of the sample tube? They are 16mm or 5/8." I have been told a lug nut will fit over the nipple but a cleaner look IMO would be to put the cap back on over a sturdy metal disk.
I have a punch at work and make different sized disks anytime also. If you know the size offhand please post it. Thanks!
-Joel.
I have a punch at work and make different sized disks anytime also. If you know the size offhand please post it. Thanks!
-Joel.
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If you still have the factory cat'verter, it has a third, combined, sample port, so you can still set the CO, albeit with a bit more work.
Mine is missing on the pass side, and I'm going delete the other eventually. Anything to reduce the number of repetative steps for every procedure is good. Especially on a '85-'86!
Mine is missing on the pass side, and I'm going delete the other eventually. Anything to reduce the number of repetative steps for every procedure is good. Especially on a '85-'86!
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Originally Posted by JHowell37
It's the 928 Mad Max Edition
Didn't you pick up a 928 a couple of months ago? It that it?