Slipping by without front plates
12-06-2006, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by bronto
I've been nailed twice on different cars. So I guess it's a local thing. Just don't come through Santa Barbara.
My neighbor is a CHiP motorcycle cop and he was kind enough to sign my ticket for me so I didn’t have to go to a local cop shop. Anyway we got to talking about this issue and he told me that while he never writes pulls someone over for a missing plate he will if he feels the person is being a jerk (verbally abusive etc.) he has on occasion looked for and will write up the vehicle for other violations. But more times than not he will ignore the front license plate.
Funny thing is he has totally ignored the fact that my front plate is missing on my Shark.
12-06-2006, 04:36 AM
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i just got pulled over a couple hours ago. its happened a few times. it seems that not having a front plate is thier favorite excuse to pull you over and check you out. i dont have a bracket and im not drilling holes in my car to mount it another way. so far ive only got warnings about it. but its still a pita getting stopped so often.
12-06-2006, 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hughett
Doesn't really matter to me since Iceman loves Sharks.
Plus, his insight is in line with that of my son, who was a cop for two years 'till drug busts and people shooting at him got on his nerves. He figured it was just a matter of time before a bullet connected in the 40% of his body not covered by the $1800 kevlar vest we gave him for Christmas. It was nice to test my V1 against his equipment though. When bad guys bug you, cops earn their pay. And, for some reason, my son doesn't like donuts.
My son hated catching speeders and drunks because you never knew how they were going to react. Kill you? One guy shot his patrol car's engine with a rifle. He made catching speeders a game...Cops are not dummies and they know most of our evasion techniques. It can kinda be fun trying to outwit the dumb. They're dangerous anyway. it was expected that he would not let everyone off..otherwise he got fired. He really hated domestic disputes...worse than drug busts. At least on the latter you know what to expect since the druggies are predictable. But the meth labs can be as bad on your health as a 9mm.
BTW, Iceman, Good kind and honorable Sir. I've been a good boy and haven't done anything bad, no where, no time. It wasn't me anyway. I was framed. I'll report you to my friend the governor. I was on my way to pick up my wife to take her to the hospital. A stalker was chasing me. I thought you were a stalker. I think my house is on fire. My foot got hung on the gas pedal. My car's speedometer said 55mph. I think your radar detector is defective, when did you calibrate it? Remember me? I was your son's uncle's best friend. We were in the same frat, remember? I donated money to the Policeman's Ball. Okay, Okay...so I was going 80 mph in a 35mph zone...no one was hurt were they? Wanna drive my car? I think I'm having a heart attack. Please hold my beer.
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Plus, his insight is in line with that of my son, who was a cop for two years 'till drug busts and people shooting at him got on his nerves. He figured it was just a matter of time before a bullet connected in the 40% of his body not covered by the $1800 kevlar vest we gave him for Christmas. It was nice to test my V1 against his equipment though. When bad guys bug you, cops earn their pay. And, for some reason, my son doesn't like donuts.
My son hated catching speeders and drunks because you never knew how they were going to react. Kill you? One guy shot his patrol car's engine with a rifle. He made catching speeders a game...Cops are not dummies and they know most of our evasion techniques. It can kinda be fun trying to outwit the dumb. They're dangerous anyway. it was expected that he would not let everyone off..otherwise he got fired. He really hated domestic disputes...worse than drug busts. At least on the latter you know what to expect since the druggies are predictable. But the meth labs can be as bad on your health as a 9mm.
BTW, Iceman, Good kind and honorable Sir. I've been a good boy and haven't done anything bad, no where, no time. It wasn't me anyway. I was framed. I'll report you to my friend the governor. I was on my way to pick up my wife to take her to the hospital. A stalker was chasing me. I thought you were a stalker. I think my house is on fire. My foot got hung on the gas pedal. My car's speedometer said 55mph. I think your radar detector is defective, when did you calibrate it? Remember me? I was your son's uncle's best friend. We were in the same frat, remember? I donated money to the Policeman's Ball. Okay, Okay...so I was going 80 mph in a 35mph zone...no one was hurt were they? Wanna drive my car? I think I'm having a heart attack. Please hold my beer.
H2
Want to fill us into on the "evasion techniques" we have so that I do not follow? Everyonce and a while on a clear road I might push the speed limit(almost to the limit), never thought of "running" for the police but if there are ways to turn off at the most optimal time it would be appreciated. I've been dinged only once in the last eleven years and the CHP came up and I never knew where she came from. I could not say anything that could sway her. Just asking for a little hint...
12-06-2006, 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by midengine
i just got pulled over a couple hours ago. its happened a few times. it seems that not having a front plate is thier favorite excuse to pull you over and check you out. i dont have a bracket and im not drilling holes in my car to mount it another way. so far ive only got warnings about it. but its still a pita getting stopped so often.
Damn you get pita bread and I get a ticket.....
12-06-2006, 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Bret928
Lord ain't that the truth, that's exactly where I got my last ticket for a missing front license plate.
My neighbor is a CHiP motorcycle cop and he was kind enough to sign my ticket for me so I didn’t have to go to a local cop shop. Anyway we got to talking about this issue and he told me that while he never writes pulls someone over for a missing plate he will if he feels the person is being a jerk (verbally abusive etc.) he has on occasion looked for and will write up the vehicle for other violations. But more times than not he will ignore the front license plate.
Funny thing is he has totally ignored the fact that my front plate is missing on my Shark.
My neighbor is a CHiP motorcycle cop and he was kind enough to sign my ticket for me so I didn’t have to go to a local cop shop. Anyway we got to talking about this issue and he told me that while he never writes pulls someone over for a missing plate he will if he feels the person is being a jerk (verbally abusive etc.) he has on occasion looked for and will write up the vehicle for other violations. But more times than not he will ignore the front license plate.
Funny thing is he has totally ignored the fact that my front plate is missing on my Shark.
12-06-2006, 09:26 AM
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I also asked my cop friend if there is some sort of record kept for fix-it tickets. He said that there isn’t so long as the ticket is taken care of properly. Other than no records are kept. So one could in theory (wink wink nudge nudge ) take care of the ticket and as has been suggested already remove the plate once is it sighed off.
The trick is to avoid getting ticketed by the same police officer. Because if he recognizes you after pulling you over for the same violation and notices that you still haven’t fixed it – he said he can write you up for failure to heed a officer’s direction or something like that. So I guess you just have to roll the dice and hope we don’t get pulled over by the same cop.
) take care of the ticket and as has been suggested already remove the plate once is it sighed off. The trick is to avoid getting ticketed by the same police officer. Because if he recognizes you after pulling you over for the same violation and notices that you still haven’t fixed it – he said he can write you up for failure to heed a officer’s direction or something like that. So I guess you just have to roll the dice and hope we don’t get pulled over by the same cop.
12-06-2006, 10:05 AM
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Hughett wrote: ... Wanna drive my car? ...
That's the one I've always wondered about and been tempted to offer. On the "Oh, in _this_ car that was a reasonable and prudent speed," theory - since that's so offer my theory, as I don't feel reckless.
Ever happen to your son, Harvey, or you Iceman? Ever work?
That's the one I've always wondered about and been tempted to offer. On the "Oh, in _this_ car that was a reasonable and prudent speed," theory - since that's so offer my theory, as I don't feel reckless.
Ever happen to your son, Harvey, or you Iceman? Ever work?
12-06-2006, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Fogey1
Hughett wrote: ... Wanna drive my car? ...
That's the one I've always wondered about and been tempted to offer. On the "Oh, in _this_ car that was a reasonable and prudent speed," theory - since that's so offer my theory, as I don't feel reckless.
Ever happen to your son, Harvey, or you Iceman? Ever work?
That's the one I've always wondered about and been tempted to offer. On the "Oh, in _this_ car that was a reasonable and prudent speed," theory - since that's so offer my theory, as I don't feel reckless.
Ever happen to your son, Harvey, or you Iceman? Ever work?
Concerning my son, he's back in college learning to be a radiologist for hospitals. After we paid for is POST training! But this time he's paying his own way. He did learn some really cool stuff while being a officer and it will serve him well the rest of his life. I admre police officers but I'm glad I'm not one. Way too stressful.
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12-06-2006, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Hughett
Concerning my son, he's back in college learning to be a radiologist for hospitals.
Anyway, not the point- I was just wondering if anyone ever had experiences with being hassled about front license plates in NY, specifically NYC. I don't need one (registered in PA) but I know someone who is loath to drill holes in the front bumper of her brand new Mini Cooper S.
12-06-2006, 12:51 PM
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Maybe there is a market for suction cup license holders?
My only advice on tickets is do not assume the online traffic school will be easy, or a time saver.
My only advice on tickets is do not assume the online traffic school will be easy, or a time saver.
12-14-2006, 03:53 AM
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Unfortunately I live in Berkeley, CA where parking citations are a major source of revenue for funding all sorts of "improvement" projects that no one asks for. For instance, we have wheelchair ramps at every corner (that's a good thing). Too bad the sidewalks are in such disrepair that none of the disabled ever use them! And we have roundabouts and street barricades to make sure you can't go anywhere in a car efficiently. The roundabouts are equipped with 8 signs, 4 to instruct drivers on the fine art of driving around $25k to $50k obstructions that serve no purpose except to keep bureaucrats and their sign-making relatives employed. Oh, the other 4 signs are reflectors to warn sensible drivers that there is an immovable piece of crap in the middle of the road.
Many of our intersections have been made safer by the installation of cameras and countdown timers. One main intersection has 17 devices watching over our every move. Oh and then there are the inevitable signs about 18" x 36" warning us that the lights are photo enforced. And more signs gleefully announcing the $307 fine for an infraction.
These countdown timers are a curious addition. When we had the green, yellow, red light sequence we had to be alert for the sudden yellow light warning of the following red one. If we saw a yellow light half a block ahead we usually prepared to stop. Now with these timers if you're half a block away and the digital timer still has 2 sec on it, that's a sign to bury the throttle. If there are 4 or 5 sec showing, then you just need to speed up to 45 or 50 mph to skate through just after the light turned red.
We also have solar powered signs that display our speed. Of course they don't work at night, but that's ok since they are just a way for Berkeley to demonstrate their undying commitment to all things "green." I have found that they are great for measuring my final speed at the end of a quarter mile speed run. I measured off 1/4 mile in each direction from the sign because the street is not flat and I make 5 runs in each direction and average the speeds. Downhill I can hit 125, uphill about 105.
Berkeley is also big on front license plates, even before the photo craze, because it is a really quick and easy way for them to screw us out of $36. I got nailed a few weeks ago and got a second ticket before I could take care of the first. The second was accompanied by a notice that my registration had expired--haven't had time to get my car smogged. Here the miserable parasitic meter readers are empowered to write these tickets, thus freeing up the cops to attend to really important stuff.
A little CFD study would probably demonstrate that front license plates on many cars actually increase turbulence and drag, thus reducing gas mileage! That doesn't matter much in Berkeley since their goal is to eliminate cars entirely or short of that, make it impossible to drive them here. Have they forgotten that traffic fines and parking tickets are their major source of revenue? How the heck will the bureaucrats afford those mid sixties diesel Volvos they drive?
Grrr,
Tom Cloutier
Many of our intersections have been made safer by the installation of cameras and countdown timers. One main intersection has 17 devices watching over our every move. Oh and then there are the inevitable signs about 18" x 36" warning us that the lights are photo enforced. And more signs gleefully announcing the $307 fine for an infraction.
These countdown timers are a curious addition. When we had the green, yellow, red light sequence we had to be alert for the sudden yellow light warning of the following red one. If we saw a yellow light half a block ahead we usually prepared to stop. Now with these timers if you're half a block away and the digital timer still has 2 sec on it, that's a sign to bury the throttle. If there are 4 or 5 sec showing, then you just need to speed up to 45 or 50 mph to skate through just after the light turned red.
We also have solar powered signs that display our speed. Of course they don't work at night, but that's ok since they are just a way for Berkeley to demonstrate their undying commitment to all things "green." I have found that they are great for measuring my final speed at the end of a quarter mile speed run. I measured off 1/4 mile in each direction from the sign because the street is not flat and I make 5 runs in each direction and average the speeds. Downhill I can hit 125, uphill about 105.
Berkeley is also big on front license plates, even before the photo craze, because it is a really quick and easy way for them to screw us out of $36. I got nailed a few weeks ago and got a second ticket before I could take care of the first. The second was accompanied by a notice that my registration had expired--haven't had time to get my car smogged. Here the miserable parasitic meter readers are empowered to write these tickets, thus freeing up the cops to attend to really important stuff.
A little CFD study would probably demonstrate that front license plates on many cars actually increase turbulence and drag, thus reducing gas mileage! That doesn't matter much in Berkeley since their goal is to eliminate cars entirely or short of that, make it impossible to drive them here. Have they forgotten that traffic fines and parking tickets are their major source of revenue? How the heck will the bureaucrats afford those mid sixties diesel Volvos they drive?
Grrr,
Tom Cloutier
