Nov. MD/DC/VA GTG
#1
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Nov. MD/DC/VA GTG
Since no one has made an announcement for a Nov. GTG, I'd like to propose an unofficial GTG for next Saturday (Nov. 11).
Chamilka, a local 928 enthusiast some of us have recently met is having a fuel leak prob in the fuel pump area. The shop he took it to charged him 1 hour plus to diagnose a bad check valve/washer. I told him to take the car home and that a few of us would help (because I know you want to) him put the new check valve/washers in. Parts are coming next week.
He has agreed to hold the GTG at his house (Fairfax, VA) on Saturday (Nov. 11) from about 11:00 to 3:00.
Anyone interested? Address will be provided via PM for those interested. Oh, and beverages and food will be provided.
Chamilka, a local 928 enthusiast some of us have recently met is having a fuel leak prob in the fuel pump area. The shop he took it to charged him 1 hour plus to diagnose a bad check valve/washer. I told him to take the car home and that a few of us would help (because I know you want to) him put the new check valve/washers in. Parts are coming next week.
He has agreed to hold the GTG at his house (Fairfax, VA) on Saturday (Nov. 11) from about 11:00 to 3:00.
Anyone interested? Address will be provided via PM for those interested. Oh, and beverages and food will be provided.
#5
Rennlist Member
Oooh. Fuel problems scare the hell out of me. Maybe I'll swing by to watch from the sidelines, Halon bottle in hand.
#6
Hey Tomcat,
I once had the same exact problem. Replaced the fuel pump, check valve, washers, etc., some of 'em TWICE! Nothing repaired the leak, and the leak kept getting WORSE!
I then REALLY got to work inspecting the whole assembly.... Turned out, for me, to be the banjo fitting over the check valve.
Where the hard line going into the banjo fitting area is, apparently is a 'weak' area. The fitting was overtightened, causing this area to start to collapse, meaning non-parallel surfaces, and the gaskets weren't up to sealing the non-parallel surfaces. I still have the old line somewhere about....
Wish I had a little more warning, I might've been able to attend.... This is just another suggestion about where or what to look for....
Can't make snap movements right now, gotta get the winter vehicle back up and running.... Burnt a valve on a trip to Mass. .... And the van has been burning oil for awhile, so, a total teardown and inspection is in process..... heads are rebuilt, going through the bottom end now.....
Brett
'87 S4 Cassisrot Auto
'56 356A needing a LOT of work....
I once had the same exact problem. Replaced the fuel pump, check valve, washers, etc., some of 'em TWICE! Nothing repaired the leak, and the leak kept getting WORSE!
I then REALLY got to work inspecting the whole assembly.... Turned out, for me, to be the banjo fitting over the check valve.
Where the hard line going into the banjo fitting area is, apparently is a 'weak' area. The fitting was overtightened, causing this area to start to collapse, meaning non-parallel surfaces, and the gaskets weren't up to sealing the non-parallel surfaces. I still have the old line somewhere about....
Wish I had a little more warning, I might've been able to attend.... This is just another suggestion about where or what to look for....
Can't make snap movements right now, gotta get the winter vehicle back up and running.... Burnt a valve on a trip to Mass. .... And the van has been burning oil for awhile, so, a total teardown and inspection is in process..... heads are rebuilt, going through the bottom end now.....
Brett
'87 S4 Cassisrot Auto
'56 356A needing a LOT of work....
#7
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Hope to see you there Steve. Sorry we're going to miss you JP.
Thanks for the insight Brett. Never had the problem - only had the experience of taking the cover off. Talked with Chamilka and think collectively as a group we are more competent than the shop he took it to. BTW, if it's the fitting, I guess he'll have to get a new fuel line (i.e., can't be repaired?).
Now, where are all of the other guys?
Also for the locals, I saw a black GTS (at least a GTS rear reflector) passing by me in the opposite direction on Rt. 29 (Darnestown, MD). Anyone know who this might be?
Thanks for the insight Brett. Never had the problem - only had the experience of taking the cover off. Talked with Chamilka and think collectively as a group we are more competent than the shop he took it to. BTW, if it's the fitting, I guess he'll have to get a new fuel line (i.e., can't be repaired?).
Now, where are all of the other guys?
Also for the locals, I saw a black GTS (at least a GTS rear reflector) passing by me in the opposite direction on Rt. 29 (Darnestown, MD). Anyone know who this might be?
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#8
Morning Tomcat,
No I don't believe it possible, nor even long term reliable. I'd think that once the metal starts a deformation process, even if you could find a way to open the banjo fitting back up, so that the surfaces are parallel again [ and without machining the surfaces to be certain they are parallel to each other ], how would you be certain the fitting won't start collapsing easier than before [ especially now that the metal is now slightly thinner from the machining process ]?
No I don't believe it possible, nor even long term reliable. I'd think that once the metal starts a deformation process, even if you could find a way to open the banjo fitting back up, so that the surfaces are parallel again [ and without machining the surfaces to be certain they are parallel to each other ], how would you be certain the fitting won't start collapsing easier than before [ especially now that the metal is now slightly thinner from the machining process ]?
#9
Rennlist Member
Well, Ill prey my clutch holds out a little longer and make my way over there. Since Im a smoker... Ill be standing over with JP!! Wait. Sounds like management to me!! =D
Tomcat, hook me with the directions! Send them to Jerome also, hes always good at lending a hand in the local area!
Tomcat, hook me with the directions! Send them to Jerome also, hes always good at lending a hand in the local area!
#10
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
I wasssss waiting for you - and several others. If you need a ride, let me know.
Also, check your calender for the Rockville Starbucks (Rennlist p-car) gathering:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ight=rockville
Also, check your calender for the Rockville Starbucks (Rennlist p-car) gathering:
https://rennlist.com/forums/showthre...ight=rockville
#12
Race Car
Guys, sorry but I am not going to be able to make it. My schedule has been pretty full as of late and this is actually going to be my first weekend in a few a chance for some downtime and getting some projects done around the house.
John, thanks for trying to get the gang together. As for dec's GTG I will gladly be there.
Good luck on the fuel pump fix. I am not sure if others remember but on my '87 944 I had sprung a fuel leak as well. Turned out that the leak started inside/under the non-serviceable fuel pump housing/cover. There was nothing that could be done IIRC other than to just replace the pump. It might be a good idea to have one on hand just in case. If it turns out that it is not needed return it. After handling and dealing with fuel, lines and hoses in that area it would suck to get in there and learn that you didn't have the right parts to finish the job.
Michael
John, thanks for trying to get the gang together. As for dec's GTG I will gladly be there.
Good luck on the fuel pump fix. I am not sure if others remember but on my '87 944 I had sprung a fuel leak as well. Turned out that the leak started inside/under the non-serviceable fuel pump housing/cover. There was nothing that could be done IIRC other than to just replace the pump. It might be a good idea to have one on hand just in case. If it turns out that it is not needed return it. After handling and dealing with fuel, lines and hoses in that area it would suck to get in there and learn that you didn't have the right parts to finish the job.
Michael
#13
Burning Brakes
Thread Starter
Originally Posted by S4-on-your-back-door
i cant wait this is going to be fun i get to tear up some-one elses car for a change lol
Originally Posted by michaelathome
Turned out that the leak started inside/under the non-serviceable fuel pump housing/cover. There was nothing that could be done IIRC other than to just replace the pump. It might be a good idea to have one on hand just in case.
#14
Rennlist Member
Hello all.
Fist of all I want to thank John (tomcat) for all your support, specially volunteering to help me out, it is very nice of you. It is amazing to see what a friendly bunch we have here.
Ok, so I am all set for this Saturday, I’ve got both domestic and exotic beverages, wings and more.
Any vegetarians?
Ok then see you all there
Chamilka
Fist of all I want to thank John (tomcat) for all your support, specially volunteering to help me out, it is very nice of you. It is amazing to see what a friendly bunch we have here.
Ok, so I am all set for this Saturday, I’ve got both domestic and exotic beverages, wings and more.
Any vegetarians?
Ok then see you all there
Chamilka