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Champagne 11-03-2006 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Normy
Maybe Paul Champagne can back me up on this [note that I got your name right this time],
N!

thanks, I appreciate it :thumbup:


Originally Posted by Normy
the guy who re-tanned my leather interior told me when I showed him a picture of the Op-Art interior while handing him the black seat skins that currently grace my '85...told me that he could indeed easily emulate that odd pattern via white leather paint....on the leather.

In my opinion, the only way to do justice to the design, in leather, is to sew the pattern using squares. Building the pattern row after row.

It would take time, a bit of skill and a lot of crazy both on the part of the client and the craftsman :bigbye:

Now, why do I know that? :evilgrin:


Paul

Champagne 11-03-2006 11:07 AM


Originally Posted by Tony
Paul i would love to see you do the Pascha on leather!!

Thanks for the pictures Tony. I remember hating that when I first saw it some 25 years ago. But it sure does grow on you :thumbup:

I actually did tests in lasering the pattern onto leather. It works, but it doesn't have the punch of the technique I described above.

Paul

Brian B 11-03-2006 12:31 PM

Is it possible to have this fabric made up for us? I for one would love to re-do my interior in Op-Art...

Maybe a group buy is possible???

Tom. M 11-03-2006 12:33 PM

I wonder if you could use your laser engraving technique (like on the Porsche crest in the arm rest)..and set up the pattern on a large piece of leather. I can see an alcatara (suede) style with the impression of the pasha pattern - used for the center sections of the front seats....

You won't get the black/white checkered look...but would be cool nonetheless..

later,
Tom

whitefox 11-03-2006 12:53 PM

Looks like its really hard to keep clean.

Champagne 11-03-2006 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Tom. M
I wonder if you could use your laser engraving technique (like on the Porsche crest in the arm rest)..and set up the pattern on a large piece of leather. I can see an alcatara (suede) style with the impression of the pasha pattern - used for the center sections of the front seats....

You won't get the black/white checkered look...but would be cool nonetheless..

later,
Tom

Hey Tom,

see my second post, just above.
Laser did work, but the effect was too subtle in my opinion. For those who want Pascha, bold is probably more what they are looking for.

Paul

Tom. M 11-03-2006 01:47 PM

Doh..!! Speed reading doesn't work so well sometimes. haha..In general I think it would make for a nice subtle accent for the 87 and up 928's....over the standard perforated leather... When I see the pascha interior I automatically think Old Bugger....would seem odd to have it in a S4..but either way...what would it cost to do the center section in that style..and then sew onto the seat? (do you have any pics of the experiment you did?)
Thanks,
Tom
89GT

Nicole 11-03-2006 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by Champagne
In my opinion, the only way to do justice to the design, in leather, is to sew the pattern using squares. Building the pattern row after row.

It would take time, a bit of skill and a lot of crazy both on the part of the client and the craftsman :bigbye:

Why not use different widths of leather stripes, and weave them together, alternating light and dark ones?

Champagne 11-03-2006 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by Nicole
Why not use different widths of leather stripes, and weave them together, alternating light and dark ones?

Hey Nicole,
weaving would not work for a few reasons, the main being the fact that if you want to keep the illusion effect of the design, each square needs to vary in both width and height.

Paul

Champagne 11-03-2006 08:33 PM


Originally Posted by Tom. M
Doh..!! Speed reading doesn't work so well sometimes. haha..In general I think it would make for a nice subtle accent for the 87 and up 928's....over the standard perforated leather... When I see the pascha interior I automatically think Old Bugger....would seem odd to have it in a S4..but either way...what would it cost to do the center section in that style..and then sew onto the seat? (do you have any pics of the experiment you did?)
Thanks,
Tom
89GT

Hey Tom,

I have too many projects on the bench right now :) And this one is not ready for prime time yet. But it is on the bench and I will have both pictures and prices as soon as I am satisfied with the result of the samples.

Paul

Nicole 11-03-2006 09:17 PM


Originally Posted by Champagne
Hey Nicole,
weaving would not work for a few reasons, the main being the fact that if you want to keep the illusion effect of the design, each square needs to vary in both width and height.

Paul

Well, think about it: You have a set of leather stripes. They get wider and wider, and then thinner again. You have a second set in contrasting color that goes perpendicular to the first set. You weave them together - what do you get?

Should be very close to an op-art effect.

Nicole

heinrich 11-03-2006 09:31 PM

Personally weave to me would look like a retiree's hat or bowling shoes :D ... I want it painted or dyed.

Champagne 11-03-2006 09:40 PM


Originally Posted by Nicole
Well, think about it: You have a set of leather stripes. They get wider and wider, and then thinner again. You have a second set in contrasting color that goes perpendicular to the first set. You weave them together - what do you get?

Should be very close to an op-art effect.

Nicole

I agree that you could get close to the effect, but then you get into problems for hiding the edges and keeping the junctions closed.
But you are right, that is one way that could work, just not the look I'm after.

It's a good catch on your part though, I didn't see it like that at first.

Paul

JEC_31 12-04-2006 10:50 PM

Wow - the link to the Vasarely auction is the first time I've received art education from e-bay.

Thanks for the links Nicole, it's amazing that this stuff is out there.

Let's keep this thread alive, in hopes that someone finds an amazing Pascha source for 928s!

bronto 12-05-2006 12:05 AM

That is Pascha! The others are close, but this one looks like it could be made of Porsche material.


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