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Old 08-01-2006, 12:51 AM
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Being that he put in a Chevy and threw flames on the car, he probably doesn't know jack about Porsches and didn't maintain the car at all. My guess is it went down like this... When he ate a timing belt and found out how much it costs to fix, he had some 'race shop' build the Chev motor with '700hp' and put that in for his cost vs. performance 'upgrade.'

Still could be a nice car after being de-Nascar'd...
Old 08-01-2006, 01:10 AM
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50K invested. If he's including what the car cost him when it was running good, he'd get there in a hurry.
Old 08-01-2006, 12:05 PM
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this term kills me..."$50,000 invested" the definition of invest is..."To commit (money or capital) in order to gain a financial return: invested their savings in stocks and bonds. or To spend or devote for future advantage or benefit: invested much time and energy in getting a good education." The cold hard truth is money spent on cars is money spent rarely does much of it ever come back. Which is fine few if any hobbies return any money why should cars be any different ?
Old 08-01-2006, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
this term kills me..."$50,000 invested" the definition of invest is..."To commit (money or capital) in order to gain a financial return: invested their savings in stocks and bonds. or To spend or devote for future advantage or benefit: invested much time and energy in getting a good education." The cold hard truth is money spent on cars is money spent rarely does much of it ever come back. Which is fine few if any hobbies return any money why should cars be any different ?

The return on our investments is "future advantage or benefit" in the form of the joy of driving these fine cars. The key is to withdraw this payback and actually drive the car - don't let it be a hole in the driveway that eats money.

As far as good ROI ratios, I'm still considering a V8 RX-7 swap: the dollar amount required to buy-in is very small compared to the huge payoff in all-out performance fun.

For initial purchase prices the classic 928 is still a huge bargain too, with many large payoffs in the Comfort, Style, and Panache categories as well as Performance. After a while, though, the necessities of continually "investing" more in the car (maintenance!) to keep the payback rolling can get a little dear...
Old 08-01-2006, 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
this term kills me..."$50,000 invested" the definition of invest is..."To commit (money or capital) in order to gain a financial return: invested their savings in stocks and bonds. or To spend or devote for future advantage or benefit: invested much time and energy in getting a good education." The cold hard truth is money spent on cars is money spent rarely does much of it ever come back. Which is fine few if any hobbies return any money why should cars be any different ?
"$50K lost" more or less....in other words. Having been and hung around street rodders much of my life, there's no way you can know from photos if the quality work on this car is good or an engineering nightmare of crap. Mechanic wannbes often end up selling their cars before completion when they realize that it's a lost cause...and will keep on losing.

It's gotta be worth the experience to keep investing...like our unhacked 928s. There are many, many thousands of unfinished "rare project cars" of all kinds sitting in yards throughout the nation. You'll see them in practically every neighborhood. Luckily, most of them don't make it past the first screwup. And most of them are relatively undesireable to begin with. Anyone want a stock International Harvester Pickup? I don't.

It's a horrible thing to say but some of the best deals are where some unfortunate guy has been single for a few years and sunk much of his paycheck into a car and it's well done...and it's close to being cherried...just paint, new posi, etc.....then he got married and the crap hit the fan on the project and he's selling at a loss....Car or woman...which do you want? Happens.

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:32 PM
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JEC exactly you do it for the FUN because it makes you smile !! This owner after $50,000 seems to have lost the joy...
Old 08-01-2006, 12:36 PM
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On one of my street rod build ups (32 Ply Coupe with 'vette engine and Mustang steering box)...I mounted (read, "welded") the steering box (my first box mount) in a way that the trailing arm was wrong...and when I turned the steering wheel left..the car would turn right...vis/versa. For kicks, took it around the block and I drove like a drunk. It's not easy killing old habits. I was about ready to sell at that point but not many buyers for that kind of car.

I wouldn't touch the 928 in question on this listing unless the cost was easily within the value of soem part/parts that I needed. And when a posting is obviously exaggerated, you know what that means about the rest of the car.

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Old 08-01-2006, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
This owner after $50,000 seems to have lost the joy...
Along with some serious coinage...
Old 08-01-2006, 01:43 PM
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I hate the hybrids more than most, but...just look at the room in that engine bay!
Old 08-01-2006, 01:56 PM
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Yes Adam and the BMW 6 diesel in the UK 928 has even more room !
Old 08-01-2006, 02:15 PM
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No interior shots?? I saw a chevy-powered '83 here locally and it looked like a good job, plus the motor was a LOT stronger than an '83.
Old 08-01-2006, 02:20 PM
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ROB HOW MUCH DO U CAR TO COME AND INSTALL DASH AND PODS? IM IN VA
Old 08-01-2006, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by S4-on-your-back-door
ROB HOW MUCH DO U CAR TO COME AND INSTALL DASH AND PODS? IM IN VA
Sent you a PM
Old 08-01-2006, 03:19 PM
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OK... there are no interior shots... that is not good news... the engine bay does not look detailed it is highly unlikely there is $50K invested. Our 600HP supercharged 355 Chevy (Dynoed) blew out the first transaxle in minutes and is doing a good job of taking out the rebuilt one currently. We have about $25K invested in the 355 blower motor 928 including custom paint, asnd about $70K in the 87 928, but that includes extensive body work, interior and electronics work, with only $12K of that invested in the race motor. We also learned that adding a blower of any type to a stock Chevy motor is a recipe for disaster, we blew up the original motor 3 times adding the 6-71 supercharger... then actually trashed the enire engine (everything below the blower) and built a proper Chevy based blower motor. Also as I stated before, both 928's have NO Stock Chevy engine parts, all are either third party race parts or beefed up Chevy parts for reliability.

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