Wipeout the old dye on with the new-use what and quick?
07-10-2006, 10:24 PM
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Wipeout the old dye on with the new-use what and quick?
I need to remove the old dye on the seat and add the new.
Has to be a bit easy and convenient plus some quality.
Please don't tell me that quality takes time.
How do and what to use.
thanks
Has to be a bit easy and convenient plus some quality.
Please don't tell me that quality takes time.
How do and what to use.
thanks
07-10-2006, 11:10 PM
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Mike,
Quality does take time, but not as much as you might think. There will be varying opinions on this topic.
I did some research and concluded that Leatherique was among the best at leather care and restoration. They have a very good reputation among the Jag/Bentley restoration crowd. They can either match a sample of your existing leather or can provide dye to orginal Porsche spec. I had them do the latter.
I have a small wear area on the drivers bolster of my sport seats. The usual place. I haven't redyed it yet because I don't want the car out of commission during the summer and during the winter it is too much hassle to take the seat out when the car is in storage. I'll get to it one day and let you know how it turns out.
I can confirm that the cleaner and treatment products are excellent. I started with a pristine interior but my seats are very soft after Leatherique treatment.
Quality does take time, but not as much as you might think. There will be varying opinions on this topic.
I did some research and concluded that Leatherique was among the best at leather care and restoration. They have a very good reputation among the Jag/Bentley restoration crowd. They can either match a sample of your existing leather or can provide dye to orginal Porsche spec. I had them do the latter.
I have a small wear area on the drivers bolster of my sport seats. The usual place. I haven't redyed it yet because I don't want the car out of commission during the summer and during the winter it is too much hassle to take the seat out when the car is in storage. I'll get to it one day and let you know how it turns out.
I can confirm that the cleaner and treatment products are excellent. I started with a pristine interior but my seats are very soft after Leatherique treatment.
07-11-2006, 01:34 PM
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Mike,
IF you really need to remove old leather dye from the seats, I've used 2 ways (both scary) that work VERY well.
If I just want to get the top old layers removed, I use lacquer thinner on a rag. When I can wipe the clean/lacquer thinner rag across the dyed leather and it no longer picks up the dye color, then I've removed all the old surface dye and there is a surface that is clean and will accept new dye readily (however, I always treat it with Leatherique, or Soffener (my favorite, from Color Plus) at this point before I add dye. After 5-10 treatments with the leather softener, I then go over the surface again with the lacquer thinner rag to remove any contaminants/softener material that is still on the surface before applying new dye. I used this process on the 12 way power heated silver grey seats from a totaled '88 S4 that are now in my '94 GTS and they turned out nice and soft and beautifully colored.
IF I need to change the color, I remove all the old dye via CitruStrip paint remover. It may take 2-3 treatments, but using a plastic spatula, I get it all off the leather. Then - again, lots of softener followed by a laquered rag wipe, then treat it with 4-5 coats of leather dye. I changed a set of dark brown OE Sport Seats to silver grey for a street/track car via this technique ~4 years ago, and they looked great as well.
I've used both Leatherique and Color Plus softeners and dyes and find the Color Plus is much more durable, actually easier to work with and gives a nice finish (I use the "wood staining" rub on/in method for dye application).
Good luck, do good prep work and take your time. The end result will be seats that look, feel, and wear as good as new.
Gary Knox
West Chester, PA
IF you really need to remove old leather dye from the seats, I've used 2 ways (both scary) that work VERY well.
If I just want to get the top old layers removed, I use lacquer thinner on a rag. When I can wipe the clean/lacquer thinner rag across the dyed leather and it no longer picks up the dye color, then I've removed all the old surface dye and there is a surface that is clean and will accept new dye readily (however, I always treat it with Leatherique, or Soffener (my favorite, from Color Plus) at this point before I add dye. After 5-10 treatments with the leather softener, I then go over the surface again with the lacquer thinner rag to remove any contaminants/softener material that is still on the surface before applying new dye. I used this process on the 12 way power heated silver grey seats from a totaled '88 S4 that are now in my '94 GTS and they turned out nice and soft and beautifully colored.
IF I need to change the color, I remove all the old dye via CitruStrip paint remover. It may take 2-3 treatments, but using a plastic spatula, I get it all off the leather. Then - again, lots of softener followed by a laquered rag wipe, then treat it with 4-5 coats of leather dye. I changed a set of dark brown OE Sport Seats to silver grey for a street/track car via this technique ~4 years ago, and they looked great as well.
I've used both Leatherique and Color Plus softeners and dyes and find the Color Plus is much more durable, actually easier to work with and gives a nice finish (I use the "wood staining" rub on/in method for dye application).
Good luck, do good prep work and take your time. The end result will be seats that look, feel, and wear as good as new.
Gary Knox
West Chester, PA
07-11-2006, 03:39 PM
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JP sent me some of the Classic Grey colour. I applied it to the steering wheel and a couple worn areas (cleaning first with alcohol).
Turned out excellent, and after more than a month of daily driving the steering wheel still looks perfect.
JP sent me some of the Classic Grey colour. I applied it to the steering wheel and a couple worn areas (cleaning first with alcohol).
Turned out excellent, and after more than a month of daily driving the steering wheel still looks perfect.
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Very informative thread... just one caveat: ventilate, ventilate, ventilate! In an enclosed space, such as working inside the cabin of your 928, lacquer- and paint-thinners can be quite lethal.
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07-12-2006, 12:09 PM
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rhys,
GOOD catch. I always remove my seats from the cars, as it is really much easier to do a complete re-dye that way. Also, I do anything with lacquer thinner in a large open space (outside, or in 2-3 car garage with doors fully open and fan blowing). The rest of the stuff I do in my basement work area. BE CAREFUL with solvents!!!
Gary Knox
West Chester, PA
GOOD catch. I always remove my seats from the cars, as it is really much easier to do a complete re-dye that way. Also, I do anything with lacquer thinner in a large open space (outside, or in 2-3 car garage with doors fully open and fan blowing). The rest of the stuff I do in my basement work area. BE CAREFUL with solvents!!!
Gary Knox
West Chester, PA
