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Old 07-03-2006, 10:40 PM
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Rod,

That is the idle solenoid for the AC system. i.e. it ups the idle when the AC is engaged. Try plugging it to see if by chance it is leaking.

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Old 07-03-2006, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis Wilson
Rod,

That is the idle solenoid for the AC system. i.e. it ups the idle when the AC is engaged. Try plugging it to see if by chance it is leaking.

Dennis
Pulled the hose, plugged both the hose and the male fitting, and no change.

At least I'm learning about this poor unfortunate child. I guess that's worth something, and ... eventually... I will get it fixed.

More info, when I first start it and try to give it gas, it misses and sputters. Any load, like backing out and it doesn't want to run. If I take it through a few revs, or let it run for a minute or so, just idling, it will drag down, almost die and then surge back up. It will do this two or three times and then it's ready to go. This takes three or four minutes all together. It seems clearly to be associated with first start up. I didn't notice it so much at warm start before, but it does it at warm now consistently. After this ritual, it runs great.

#@#!$!#$$E#@@@#@!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rod
Old 07-03-2006, 10:52 PM
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you know now that i think of it, and im not sure if you looked into this. Neil had posted 2-3 times to peoples bad running cars to check the Idle switch or something like that and he helped 2-3 people in a row... I will try to search what he said for you and post it
Old 07-03-2006, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltan944
you know now that i think of it, and im not sure if you looked into this. Neil had posted 2-3 times to peoples bad running cars to check the Idle switch or something like that and he helped 2-3 people in a row... I will try to search what he said for you and post it
I switched out the idle switch and checked the settings and then removed it completely. None of this had any effect. Hacker also disconnected his, but his blower may make a difference. Maybe I need to go back and check this again.

Keep those cards and letters coming, it's got to be there somewhere.

Thanks
Rod
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Old 07-03-2006, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis Wilson
Rod,

The early stumbling doesn't sound like a timing or a vacuum problem. Have you checked the air sensor plate to make sure it is clean (no dirt from oil residue), centered in the venturi and moves freely with only resistance from the control fuel pressure? Also, while you are in there, make sure there is no standing fuel in the lower plenum.

Dennis
If this is the "barn door" unit, I actualy switched these out. I'll go check it right now and check the plate. I haven't noticed any fuel in the lower plenum, but I'll check that as well. Where did I put those air box thumb screws?


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ya sorry rod, it was about the switches for Idle and Wot sticking so they would stay in a idle or WOT position, i guess just make sure your switches are coming free although the arm is releasing
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The "barn door" is clean as a whistle and moves easily. There is no fuel, just a very light oil residue in the lower plenum.

Rod
Old 07-03-2006, 11:11 PM
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Rod,

Got my cars mixed up. There is a very similar topic on the 924board.org site. Forgot your 928 wasn't CIS.

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Old 07-03-2006, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by zoltan944
ya sorry rod, it was about the switches for Idle and Wot sticking so they would stay in a idle or WOT position, i guess just make sure your switches are coming free although the arm is releasing
Hey, I'm open to anything. I have obviously not been able to find the problem, so no suggestion is unwelcome. I may have missed something obvious, so thanks for thinking of me.

I'm trying to double and triple check everything. Unfortuantely, the only thing I've accomplished so far is to get my keyboard dirty.

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Old 07-03-2006, 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis Wilson
Rod,

Got my cars mixed up. There is a very similar topic on the 924board.org site. Forgot your 928 wasn't CIS.

Dennis
That's good, I was a little confused by the control fuel pressure part, but thought it was just my lack of experience.

Rod
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Maybe I just need to get a remote starter and start it up and let it run in the parking lot for 5-10 minutes before I'm ready to go. That just seems to be cheating -admitting failure - somehow. I'm not quite ready for that yet.

Rod
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Rod,

Let's start a checklist.

Is the connection of the notorious green wire good and clean?
Have you cleaned all of your ground contacts, fuses, etc?
Are the contacts at the ignition resistors tight and clean?
Are you getting at least 3 volts at the 15 post of the coil upon initial startup?
Have you checked for a leaking accumulator or checkvalve?
Have you checked for a leaking fuel pressure regulator?
Does the engine running change when you jiggle the ignition switch?
Have you made your weekly sacrifice to the 928 gods?

Dennis
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Originally Posted by Dennis Wilson
Rod,

Let's start a checklist.

Is the connection of the notorious green wire good and clean?
Have you cleaned all of your ground contacts, fuses, etc?
Are the contacts at the ignition resistors tight and clean?
Are you getting at least 3 volts at the 15 post of the coil upon initial startup?
Have you checked for a leaking accumulator or checkvalve?
Have you checked for a leaking fuel pressure regulator?
Does the engine running change when you jiggle the ignition switch?
Have you made your weekly sacrifice to the 928 gods?

Dennis
Of these, I have checked the "green wire", which I think is the wire from the distributor to the plug near the front jump post and it seems nice and solid. It's not green, but grey, but if that's the one, it seems great. The inside of the distributor cap and rotor look like new.

Most of the fuses are new, and I've carefully cleaned and used Corrosion X on the front two grounds, the under car ground and the trunk ground. I haven't done the two locations under that dash. I guess I need to do those as well.

Ignition resistors? I haven't checked these. Can you give me a location(s)?

Which is the 15 post of the coil (duh, the one with the big 15 on it - 6.9-7.0 volts)

I have checked fuel pressure in general. It starts and runs at 29psi. It will jump to 32psi when I shut it off and hold for about 30 minutes before dropping. Haven't specifically checked regulator.

Jiggling ignition switch has not effect.

Do you mean have I sent money to 928 international on a regular basis, you bet!!!

Please excuse what may be dumb questions, I just have little experience with the 928, but I have shop manuals, parts cd's, and more patience than I thought I would ever have.

Rod
Old 07-03-2006, 11:57 PM
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Rod,

The resistors are on the panel in front of the left fender well. Two wires on the coil (15 post) will run to the resistors. Make sure those connections are cleaned of corrosion.

Also, have you cleaned the 14 pin connections by the jump post?

Dennis


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