Crashr

Hi Guys,

I spend most of my time over on the 911 side, but as the story goes I have a buddy who has a buddy who is selling his 1985 911S. I am trying to get an idea of the value of this car. I went to look at the car unfortunately we couldn't get it started becasue the battery was dead. What I do know is that it is a

1985 928S
46K miles
needs a new clutch
needs new tires and brakes
Manual Transmission
Interior and Exterior are a 7 out of 10
Car has sat for 4-5 years and started occasionally
Located near me so no shipping costs.

The buyer is willing to take between $6K-$8K US. I know this isn't alot of information to go on, but does this seem reasonable? What kind of things should I look out for? Somebody once told me something about coolant that can corrode at the engine if it sits too long?

Any advice would be greatly appreicated.

spinaker

Priceless! If you drive it you'll know what I mean.

Crashr

Doug I see you have a what appears to be a similiar car and you live up in Canada. What do you feel your car is worth up here? How much will a clutch job cost me, and is it a DIY job? Is there a model or year which is better than the others? I know for 911's the 73 is a covetted year, does the 928 have a similiar petigree?

whitefox

It seems like there is going to be alot of little problems with it, I would get a PPI done before you make any final decisions.

spinaker

Seriously, if you can't start it you can't even post an asking price. Why does it need a clutch at such low mileage? I have 135,00 kms and mine has 30% wear left.

$6 to $8 k is probably in the range but you'll have to "sell" it as any buyer will have a lot of trouble with the shortcomings stated.

spinaker

A manual is worth premium price any year. I think '85/'86s have some unique value if you like OBs and 32 valves. These cars are so undervalued that if you own one you can never justify selling it. It doesn't help that they attracted a bad reputation for pricey repairs thanks to '80's Porsche dealer antics. That reputaiton is not at all justified now thanks to the many contributors to this and other websites who share and demistify the ownership experience.

If you were in Edmonton or I was expecting to be in TO in the near future I'd take time to look at it as the mileage is attractive.

The clutch and brakes issues suggest a few more miles though. A careful inspection can determine if the long period of non-use have taken a toll. Getting it to run and be capable of a reasonably high speed test drive will be important.

jebdog

not running it is a $3,000 pile of parts if repaired with good clutch ,new timing belt ,new tires it is probably worth $7-8,000 if the A/c works and all else checks out fine. the low milage is only significant if you have documentation and repair records.

Shane

Probably doesn't need a clutch so much as to get a good bleed on the system. New fluid and bleed the brakes, master, and slave and you'll probably be ok.

Lets see an '85 in the stated condition should fetch around 6 to 7 grand (US$).

I have been tracking all the '86 model year sales for the 928 Registry for about two years now. The 5sp 928 always fetch more, sometimes a whole lot more, even with bad paint and interior.

figgen

The clutch can be replaced (if needed - like Shane mentioned clutch bleeding is an ART) without removing the transmission or the engine. I was able to do mine, by my self, on my back with the car on jack stands (not that I would want to do it again!). I agree a good PPI is in order...who would let it sit for 4-5 years???? Man ! ODO's are notorious for not being accurate so check thought the documentation and see if the mileage is verifiable...there is documentation right ???

With a good PPI, documentation ect and given the repairs you know about 10 K CDN is probably in the ball park. Plan for 2-3 K in maintenance ( the T-belt will NEED to be done if it's sat for 4-5 years and Water pump might as well be replaced WYIT as well as the clutch and new rubber).

If going after the clutch your self consider deleting the cats and installing the x pipe ( for track purposes only of course).

85fortheDrive

A couple udda questions...

1. Is this owner the initial owner?
2. Has anything been done with the timing belt? 40-50K is the suggested range for having this replaced.

If the answer to #2 is NO, then I suggest you let the seller know that you're looking at significant shop costs to get the car in shape and that 5K - 5.5K is a reasonable offer. Sounds like it might be out to pasture and he/she might be willing to negotiate.

Sharks need to be driven!

G'luck.

Shark Attack

I write this not looking at the other posts so i do not get twisted. A 928 can eat up money fast on repairs. I had an 11 and a few 28's. although the 28 is my preferred car the 11 sure was a lot cheaper to get parts for and maintain. you say the car is a 7 out of 10 cosmetic. so the value is all on the mechanicals. with out hearing it run i would say 3K at the most. after you hear it run and can actually drive it around the block, I would say 6 is pushing it simply becasue its been sitting for so long. well i take that back it is low miles.... i may stretch to 7 on it if the interior can be salvaged. But i would take it and get a PM done. OK now i will post and go see what everyone else said

rixter

let's see
tb/wp, all accesory belts, full system flush, wires, plugs, brakes,rotors, tires, etc, etc, etc
unless you do your own work you have $3k that NEEDS to be done ASAP, what makes the interior a 7? cracked dash? $5-700, pod? another $2-400, seats? etc, etc,
honestly I'd say $3-4k buy in and plan on spending that much to get her road worthy

Oldtee

A pristine 85S 928 should go for 9-11K. You don't mention the 60K service, ie timing belt, etc and that costs about $2K. Brakes, battery, clutch and misc electrical system problems will be costly unless you can do them yourself, have a credit card with a lot of value left and patience. Offer him $2K and settle for no more than $3K, and that is being very generous. Leave this one for a 928er who knows what he is doing.

Crashr

Ok I spoke to the owner,

He is the second owner, the first of which was a women who rarely drove the car. It has never been out in the rain or snow. The biggest thing that I did learn is that it is an 1986.5 car not an 85 like my buddy told me. Does this change the value of the car at all? The owner is in Cali, but has no problem with me getting a PPI done on the car. I am going to head down this weekend with a new battery and pull the plugs. Anything else I should bring, that I may need to start it?

I should have the VIN sent over to me later tonight to look up on. How can I tell in fact if it is an 86.5?

Dennis

nee.dragger

IMO, yes, it would be more valuable. 86.5 has the S4 brakes and suspension. Plus it being a manual. Anything else, like sunroof delete or rub-strip delete? Those would also make it more coveted.

The last 4 digits in the serial numbers for 86.5 is 1000 or higher. Check this link to see the range of 86 MY serial numbers:

http://928registry.org/1983-1986-928S-model-info.htm