Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Florida roads killed my oil pan

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 03-20-2006, 06:21 PM
  #1  
DJBMINI
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
DJBMINI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Angry Florida roads killed my oil pan

Driving down I-4 into Orlando last night and hit a massive pot hole at about 60MPH. A loud bang looking in rear view mirror i see debris and smoke. lucky i was at my exit cruised of and into the parking garage. to dark to see much but oil light came on so i did not drive further. this morning daylight revels a six inch square hole in the oil pan, and dents in the exhaust silencer.
I ordered a pan and gasket from the nice people 928 intl, So any tips or tricks to replacing the pan
DJB
Old 03-20-2006, 06:29 PM
  #2  
Jim bailey - 928 International
Addict
Rennlist Member

Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Jim bailey - 928 International's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Anaheim California
Posts: 11,542
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

As we discussed on the phone several customers who had similar experiences have successfully filed claims for damages and COLLECTED from various state / local governments. The key has been documentation and photo evidence of the hazard plus a persistent attitude. Good luck with this you have every right to expect that the streets and highways be maintained in a safe condition.
Old 03-20-2006, 06:31 PM
  #3  
Mark
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Mark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Mountains of GA!
Posts: 3,537
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DJBMINI
So any tips or tricks to replacing the pan
DJB
THAT SUCKS!

Biggest tip on replacing - PATIENCE! And - Since you're gonna have to remove half the front bottom of the car - do the motor mounts at the same time! (LOTS of info here on that).

There are a BUNCH small bolts that hold the oil pan on. Several of the ones across the front are VERY difficult to get to - and even with a gearwrench - will take you 10-15 minutes EACH to take off or put back. Pay CLOSE attention to the torques specs on this...(yes - that's INCH/LBS in the specs!!). Also search for some of the locking gook recommended by many.

Another WYAIT - check the 2/6 rod bearing.
Old 03-20-2006, 06:36 PM
  #4  
dfroelicher
Instructor
 
dfroelicher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Wickenburg, Arizona
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Angry

Originally Posted by Jim bailey - 928 International
As we discussed on the phone several customers who had similar experiences have successfully filed claims for damages and COLLECTED from various state / local governments. The key has been documentation and photo evidence of the hazard plus a persistent attitude. Good luck with this you have every right to expect that the streets and highways be maintained in a safe condition.

I agree dont let up and dont take no. The 928 may be low but not lower than most cars and certainly not lower than those ricers or lowriders that people "create". It is not anyhting that you could have caused, and they should be glad that you were not speeding like some of these suv that I see on the highways. If one of those would have hit a hole like that there wouldnt be any argument about settlements.
Old 03-20-2006, 10:05 PM
  #5  
Shark Attack
Rennlist Member
 
Shark Attack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southern Utah
Posts: 11,012
Received 65 Likes on 34 Posts
Default

Yeah thats going to suck..... wonder if you were on teh same road that did that to my Beemer
Old 03-20-2006, 11:35 PM
  #6  
unclenick
Instructor
 
unclenick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Grand Island, Florida
Posts: 108
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by DJBMINI
Driving down I-4 into Orlando last night and hit a massive pot hole at about 60MPH. A loud bang looking in rear view mirror i see debris and smoke. lucky i was at my exit cruised of and into the parking garage. to dark to see much but oil light came on so i did not drive further. this morning daylight revels a six inch square hole in the oil pan, and dents in the exhaust silencer.
I ordered a pan and gasket from the nice people 928 intl, So any tips or tricks to replacing the pan
DJB
Where on I4 did this happen? I was all over the I yesterday from Tampa to Daytona.........

Glad I did not hit it with mine, get ahold of DOT and file a complaint. Last year, I got a new lower control arm and l/f wheel on my 924s when I hit a pothole in Lake County.
Old 03-21-2006, 04:02 AM
  #7  
Ian928
Pro
 
Ian928's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Kristiansund, Norway
Posts: 657
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by DJBMINI
Driving down I-4 into Orlando last night and hit a massive pot hole at about 60MPH. A loud bang looking in rear view mirror i see debris and smoke. lucky i was at my exit cruised of and into the parking garage. to dark to see much but oil light came on so i did not drive further. this morning daylight revels a six inch square hole in the oil pan, and dents in the exhaust silencer.
I ordered a pan and gasket from the nice people 928 intl, So any tips or tricks to replacing the pan
DJB
My advice is to remove as much as possible around the pan first to aid in getting the screws out. Oil pressure regulator etc. I tried to "save" me some work by leaving too much on, and had to remove it later after struggling with bolts I would have had easy access to otherwise.

I removed the pan without taking out the crossmember or any part of the steering (no wheel adjustments afterwards). I believe there is a good write-up on Nichols site on this.
Old 03-21-2006, 05:04 AM
  #8  
animal8526
Banned
 
animal8526's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: https://rlsafespace.com/
Posts: 9,700
Received 147 Likes on 84 Posts
Default

florida roads, huh? lol... ever drive NE roads after the winter? FROST HEAVES... and then, boston roads, any time of the year. its almost like rally driving to avoid the big ones (they are all big ones) anycase, that still sux. sorry to hear it.
Old 03-21-2006, 06:22 AM
  #9  
Garth S
Rennlist Member
 
Garth S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,210
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

Take a close look through the hole to see the condition of the oil pick-up tube/strainer. If it was touched, at the minimum, replace its seal to the block: it would be nice to have oil pressure when you start up ..
Old 03-21-2006, 07:52 PM
  #10  
Fogey1
Rennlist Member
 
Fogey1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Y-Bridge City, Zanesville, Ohio
Posts: 2,210
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

dfroelicher wrote:
" ... The 928 may be low but not lower than most cars and certainly not lower than those ricers or lowriders that people "create" ..."


It is possible to wipe the alternator off a 928 on a smooth and well maintained road, so proper ride height might not have changed the outcome. But the question remains, "What was the ride height?"

And, what year/model?
Old 03-21-2006, 11:35 PM
  #11  
DJBMINI
Intermediate
Thread Starter
 
DJBMINI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

The cars an 82 Euro S standard ride height original wheels and suspension
now with moded oil pan!
I contacted the DOT and filed a report they are sending a claim form.
DJB
Old 03-22-2006, 12:22 AM
  #12  
Randy V
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Randy V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Insane Diego, California
Posts: 40,449
Received 97 Likes on 65 Posts
Default

If it was me, I'd just file a claim with my insurance company and have a shop do all the work.

That's why we pay for insurance.
Old 03-22-2006, 01:27 AM
  #13  
Fogey1
Rennlist Member
 
Fogey1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Y-Bridge City, Zanesville, Ohio
Posts: 2,210
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

DJBMINI wrote:
"The cars an 82 Euro S standard ride height original wheels and suspension
now with moded oil pan!"

Have you measured it? These cars do sag with age. Mine was more than 40mm low when I got it.

And I'll add what I meant to in my last post - ask me how I know? ;-)
Old 03-22-2006, 12:51 PM
  #14  
SteveG
Rennlist Member
 
SteveG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: New York
Posts: 6,507
Received 98 Likes on 77 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark
THAT SUCKS!

Biggest tip on replacing - PATIENCE! And - Since you're gonna have to remove half the front bottom of the car - do the motor mounts at the same time! (LOTS of info here on that).
DJB:
When you research MM, note the Anchor mounts that are much cheaper than OEM. Listers cite $25 to 65 each. I think OEM is in the $250 ea. Anybody have the composite rubber/cork gasket maker? There is also a lot here on that vs the plain cork. Good luck.
Old 03-22-2006, 01:02 PM
  #15  
Jim bailey - 928 International
Addict
Rennlist Member

Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Jim bailey - 928 International's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Anaheim California
Posts: 11,542
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Yes Randy if one has full coverage insurance one could let their Insurance Company handle it...many older 928 cars are only insured for liability. Plus I have always wondered why I pay for insurance ? auto home since in my life I have collected exactly ZERO in claims never had any reason to.



Quick Reply: Florida roads killed my oil pan



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:12 AM.