Dumpin my S4
02-05-2006, 10:28 PM
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I've had my car for four years. The first two years I had nothing but problems with it. I almost sold it at one point because I finally had had enough. It was in the shop at least twice the amount of time it was driveable during that time. Because of work and other commitments, I haven't driven it as much as I would like to in the past year but in the last two years, all I have had to do with it is change the oil and fill it up with gas. It's such a pleasure to drive now when I get the chance (especially after driving a Ford ranger all week). Mine only has around 85,000 miles on it so I looking forward to a lot more years of enjoyment out of it. Don't be too quick to make a decision on getting rid of it. There's a reason you bought it in the first place.
02-05-2006, 10:35 PM
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khaled,
Think real hard before you do it....
To the rest of you - if after thinking hard he decides to sell - there really has been no expense spared here... The car is really nice for its age and indeed tons of stuff has been replaced with new.
Khaled is a real perfectionist - thats why the car frustrates him so much... Could be someones big big gain !! (I think my car would frustrate him a lot too...)
If it becomes available grab it fast it will be the best deal out there.
Khaled - think again! You sure about this...?
Alan
Think real hard before you do it....
To the rest of you - if after thinking hard he decides to sell - there really has been no expense spared here... The car is really nice for its age and indeed tons of stuff has been replaced with new.
Khaled is a real perfectionist - thats why the car frustrates him so much... Could be someones big big gain !! (I think my car would frustrate him a lot too...)
If it becomes available grab it fast it will be the best deal out there.
Khaled - think again! You sure about this...?
Alan
02-05-2006, 10:50 PM
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I understand jinxed. Can you allow yourself the car ? It is what is in your heart that attracts good or ill, the car is just the canvas. You will do what is right for you, and surely all around you will benefit, as they always do.
I think the only one you are ever hard on is yourself. God smiles on you.
I think the only one you are ever hard on is yourself. God smiles on you.
02-06-2006, 12:05 AM
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The way you look at life, you will always be "Jinxed".
How can that car be Jinxed? You have fixed everything there was to fixe on it. To me, it was a restoration project and you made the mistake of going to a carwash. Go to a detailer and have it buffed and the jinx will be gone. Surperstission(sp) is a form of control, the priests loves superstissious(sp) individuals. Set yourself free of this "HooDooVoodoo"....
How can that car be Jinxed? You have fixed everything there was to fixe on it. To me, it was a restoration project and you made the mistake of going to a carwash. Go to a detailer and have it buffed and the jinx will be gone. Surperstission(sp) is a form of control, the priests loves superstissious(sp) individuals. Set yourself free of this "HooDooVoodoo"....
02-06-2006, 12:23 AM
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well
180,000 miles, you're **** about being a perfectionist
the car has high miles, things will go wrong... car accidents happen... automated car washes hurt cars....
put it in the garage for at least a few weeks... Put it on craigslist with OBO and see what kind of interest you get
180,000 miles, you're **** about being a perfectionist
the car has high miles, things will go wrong... car accidents happen... automated car washes hurt cars....
put it in the garage for at least a few weeks... Put it on craigslist with OBO and see what kind of interest you get
02-06-2006, 01:22 AM
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I bid one THOUSAND 
I can sympathize with Khaled on my S2. No matter how much moneys put into it getting everything right, theres always something to go wrong next. My car had new paint as of September of 2005, and already has enough flaws to warrant the thousands its going to cost for a new paint job. Then once you get it up to the point where it looks perfect and everything works mechanically, you feel the clutch start to slip. I'd like to say its the nature of a Porsche, some get lucky others get screwed, but the excitement is almost in whats going wrong next. Months ago I was halfway through purchasing a 2006 VW Jetta GTI when I drove past the beaten S2, and at that point realized it wasn't in my nature to own something in the flawless state, I need to have the chaos of the fact that at anytime something might break. Its a Porsche afterall, not a Honda, and it didn't get 180,000 miles on its own.
I can sympathize with Khaled on my S2. No matter how much moneys put into it getting everything right, theres always something to go wrong next. My car had new paint as of September of 2005, and already has enough flaws to warrant the thousands its going to cost for a new paint job. Then once you get it up to the point where it looks perfect and everything works mechanically, you feel the clutch start to slip. I'd like to say its the nature of a Porsche, some get lucky others get screwed, but the excitement is almost in whats going wrong next. Months ago I was halfway through purchasing a 2006 VW Jetta GTI when I drove past the beaten S2, and at that point realized it wasn't in my nature to own something in the flawless state, I need to have the chaos of the fact that at anytime something might break. Its a Porsche afterall, not a Honda, and it didn't get 180,000 miles on its own.
02-06-2006, 02:37 AM
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Khaled,
I know other people have told you to keep the car and I think that you should too. You have given the car allot of love and also spent allot of money on it, Give it a chance to repay you.
Now, If it has come to the point that you feel uncomfortable and stressted to even drive it then you should sell it. Life is too short and complicated as it is to worry about cars.
"it is like giving away my daughter at this point, just making sure it's a good person taking care of her the way i did"
Hmmm... I vow to be your faithful owner in sickness and in health, in good times and in bad, and in joy as well as in sorrow. I promise to love you unconditionally, to keep you washed and cleaned, to honor and respect you, to drive you but not abuse you, and to cherish you for as long as we both shall live.
Can't afford the Dowry though
I know other people have told you to keep the car and I think that you should too. You have given the car allot of love and also spent allot of money on it, Give it a chance to repay you.
Now, If it has come to the point that you feel uncomfortable and stressted to even drive it then you should sell it. Life is too short and complicated as it is to worry about cars.
"it is like giving away my daughter at this point, just making sure it's a good person taking care of her the way i did"
Hmmm... I vow to be your faithful owner in sickness and in health, in good times and in bad, and in joy as well as in sorrow. I promise to love you unconditionally, to keep you washed and cleaned, to honor and respect you, to drive you but not abuse you, and to cherish you for as long as we both shall live.
Can't afford the Dowry though
02-06-2006, 04:24 AM
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Thanks all... this is really confusing. I agree that i have given it a lot of love and new organs and more were schedules on the way to be done this month. Anyone that knows me knows i am **** with my cars, specially the 928... childhood dreams never die i guess. Just got off the phone with my mom and was pretty admant that i should sell it and grow up (i guess being 32, i am still a child). I will call the dealership tomorrow and see when they will be done with the quarter panel paint (long story) and the headlight carrier plates being refinished (they forgot to paint them when i had the whole car painted!!!).
I have received a lot of good compliments from all of you and i thank you (Alan, special thanks to you specially, you know my car best in town - well short of poor Dan
). I will take it for a spin once i get it back and think hard about life without it or with it. It will be hard to let go if i do... we'll see as soon as i get it back.
Sincerely,
Khaled
I have received a lot of good compliments from all of you and i thank you (Alan, special thanks to you specially, you know my car best in town - well short of poor Dan
). I will take it for a spin once i get it back and think hard about life without it or with it. It will be hard to let go if i do... we'll see as soon as i get it back.Sincerely,
Khaled
02-06-2006, 05:04 AM
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Khaled:
Relatively speaking, you're still a baby at 32 - lots of time left to grow-up... Your mom doesn't have that same dream, so she will never understand. And while she is and will always be your mom, you don't live her life and she doesn't live yours.
You can't imagine how often my Dad has told me I should sell the 928 and the Saab, and get one car, llike his BMW 528i. Is he kidding? That's HIS idea of being mobile - mine is different. I want one practical car, and one for the senses that I can enjoy when the time and situation is right. He doesn't feel or see that - because it's not his dream.
Same my financial advisor. She drives a leased BMW threetewntysomething in a bland color, and tells me how this is feasible and how I take high risks with my cars and blah blah blah. Well, if I add up my yearly expenses for both cars, I could not lease one BMW for that money. Besides, I live to live, not to die. I won't let her strip some kind of fun out of my life that's dear to me. Whatever her and I do has to take that into consideration - period.
Don't sell the 928, because dreams never die. You'll be looking for another one soon, and believe me, after all the work you have put into this one, you won't find one that meets your standards. Finish what you have started and reap what you sowed: Enjoy a 928 that was made new for you...
Relatively speaking, you're still a baby at 32 - lots of time left to grow-up... Your mom doesn't have that same dream, so she will never understand. And while she is and will always be your mom, you don't live her life and she doesn't live yours.
You can't imagine how often my Dad has told me I should sell the 928 and the Saab, and get one car, llike his BMW 528i. Is he kidding? That's HIS idea of being mobile - mine is different. I want one practical car, and one for the senses that I can enjoy when the time and situation is right. He doesn't feel or see that - because it's not his dream.
Same my financial advisor. She drives a leased BMW threetewntysomething in a bland color, and tells me how this is feasible and how I take high risks with my cars and blah blah blah. Well, if I add up my yearly expenses for both cars, I could not lease one BMW for that money. Besides, I live to live, not to die. I won't let her strip some kind of fun out of my life that's dear to me. Whatever her and I do has to take that into consideration - period.
Don't sell the 928, because dreams never die. You'll be looking for another one soon, and believe me, after all the work you have put into this one, you won't find one that meets your standards. Finish what you have started and reap what you sowed: Enjoy a 928 that was made new for you...
02-06-2006, 07:19 AM
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When I finished my first big restoration I dragged the side of a fender down a post in my garage. I cried. My girlfriend said that the only perfect things made are made by God, and that my car would never get another dent in it again.
She was right. I drove the car for 30K no problems, and sold it four years ago. Whenever I see the new owner, he still thanks me.
Since then I have been through the highs and lows of 928 ownership. Some people love making their cars as good as they can be, but for me the quest for perfection was an unhealthy obsession. You can love a car, but it will never love you back. I think the people happiest with their projects are the ones who enjoy the process, not the ones trying to reach the goal of having gotten there.
To me, the greatest unexpected side effects of the 928 hobby are the great friends I have made, places I have gone, things I have done. I could never get my first 928 ''right'', so I parked it for three years and bought a nice one with less baggage so to speak. Now my first 928 is going to be my first track car. It never wanted to be perfect, it only wanted to be driven. My 928 ownership is becoming less of a quest and more of a hobby, but it gives me a chance to practice patience, enjoy anticipation, and interact with fellow human beings. When I look at setbacks as a problem, my hobby is a problem and unenjoyable. When I look at the same challenges as part of the process of owning a nice car that will never be perfect and never be finished I can enjoy the process, get in my caar and have a nice journey.
928's are nice vehicles, but they are just cars. They often cannot live up to my expectations. I have often thought of that new BMW that I could just drive and wax. It just wouldn't be the same.
She was right. I drove the car for 30K no problems, and sold it four years ago. Whenever I see the new owner, he still thanks me.
Since then I have been through the highs and lows of 928 ownership. Some people love making their cars as good as they can be, but for me the quest for perfection was an unhealthy obsession. You can love a car, but it will never love you back. I think the people happiest with their projects are the ones who enjoy the process, not the ones trying to reach the goal of having gotten there.
To me, the greatest unexpected side effects of the 928 hobby are the great friends I have made, places I have gone, things I have done. I could never get my first 928 ''right'', so I parked it for three years and bought a nice one with less baggage so to speak. Now my first 928 is going to be my first track car. It never wanted to be perfect, it only wanted to be driven. My 928 ownership is becoming less of a quest and more of a hobby, but it gives me a chance to practice patience, enjoy anticipation, and interact with fellow human beings. When I look at setbacks as a problem, my hobby is a problem and unenjoyable. When I look at the same challenges as part of the process of owning a nice car that will never be perfect and never be finished I can enjoy the process, get in my caar and have a nice journey.
928's are nice vehicles, but they are just cars. They often cannot live up to my expectations. I have often thought of that new BMW that I could just drive and wax. It just wouldn't be the same.
02-06-2006, 08:54 AM
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Where's BC Davis? You guys have had clouds over your 928's and very happy wrenches.
You could always consider a swap for a different year/version with someone else in your similiar position.
You could always consider a swap for a different year/version with someone else in your similiar position.
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02-06-2006, 10:41 AM
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Everyone is telling you to keep the car, but I feel you should get rid of it. And then buy you another 928. One that has less miles and been cared for. I'm not saying you're not caring for it, cause it sounds like you are. But it's not helping. The relationship with your 928 sounds like a marriage gone bad. When your spouse has cheated on you, it's hard to trust them after that, so you might as well get rid of them. And with all you've done to help the relationship work, it (the car) keeps punishing you more and more. Get rid of it and start again with another 928.
One of my younger brothers bought a used 1969 240Z back in the late 70's. Was a fun car to drive. But it spent more time on the blocks getting fixed then being on the road driving it. After 6 months, he'd had enough and sold it to a friend. And he told the guy what he'd done to the car (transmission, differential, engine work, electrical), and really didn't want to sell it to him. But his friend insisted. So he sold it. The guy had the car for about 4 years and never had a bit of trouble with it. Had to replace the battery about a year later, but that was it. My brother (and I) couldn't believe it. Anyway, the car was finally totaled in an accident. It was the other persons fault, so my brothers friend got money back for the 240Z. More than what he bought it for.
So sell the car, might be someone elses good fortune cause it appears to be your bad misfortune.
One of my younger brothers bought a used 1969 240Z back in the late 70's. Was a fun car to drive. But it spent more time on the blocks getting fixed then being on the road driving it. After 6 months, he'd had enough and sold it to a friend. And he told the guy what he'd done to the car (transmission, differential, engine work, electrical), and really didn't want to sell it to him. But his friend insisted. So he sold it. The guy had the car for about 4 years and never had a bit of trouble with it. Had to replace the battery about a year later, but that was it. My brother (and I) couldn't believe it. Anyway, the car was finally totaled in an accident. It was the other persons fault, so my brothers friend got money back for the 240Z. More than what he bought it for.
So sell the car, might be someone elses good fortune cause it appears to be your bad misfortune.