I got my Euro lens covers to replace the front bumperettes and I have two questions.
Why can't I just use a cutting wheel to remove the front of the bracket instead of removing the whole piece? It SEEMS like it would work, but I'm not sure.
Does the screw that holds the Euro lens in fit in thecenter hole of the driving light mounting bracket between the two mounting screws?

 

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It may work Ernest.

 

Not enough info Heinrich.

Ernest I wrote the procedure below for occasions like these.

Incidentally, it is just as easy to do what I have described below. I had tried the Dremel route and I could still see the metal plate...even tried painting it white...looked like crap. Do it RIGHT for the best results! You will agree with me.

Enjoy.....

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Remove the turn signal and fog/driving assemblies entirely with the disconnected wires hanging through the holes. From what I remember, I THINK you will need an "8mm" closed end wrench. You will need to drill a hole in the bumper cover behind the turn signal, perpendicular to the metal 5mph piece. It is clear what I am talking about when you see it. The 5mph piece is held in by 2 nuts and bolts. Unfortunately, if you just try to take off the nuts, both the nut and bolt turn, so you will need to get a wrench on the back of the bolt that is on the inside of the bumper cover. There is no other way to get to it without taking off the entire bumper cover...trust me!

So, drill a hole big enough to slip the closed end of a wrench in to. Take a piece of sticky tape and place it over the backside of the open part of the wrench. This is so that the bolt does not fall back in to the bumper cover area. The bolt head will probably stick to the tape (which is good) and you can pull the wrench and bolt out temporarily. You will need to get to the 2nd bolt and do the same thing. However, you need these nuts and bolts because this is what keeps the fog/driving light assembly attached to the bumper cover. Now pull the 5mph metal plate out and stick the nut back on the bolt and tighten, but not too tight, just nice and snug. Grab the other bolt and slip it in the wrench pressed against the tape and slip it back in the whole...thread on nut.

Put it all back together and just attach the new clear plastic lens to the fog/driving light assemblies after they are installed.

Simple huh?

I had an issue doing this to the GTS at first since the car was cherry and I had know idea whether the idea would work. Taking a drill to a fresh GTS bumper cover was a risk. At any rate, the turn signal assembly covers the hole and no one will ever know it is there. If you are "****" about the hole being open, go to Home Depot and get a plastic or metal hole plug in those specialty drawers they have in the bolt and screw section. No, I didn't do this..., just making a suggestion.

 

Maybe not but it has the distinction of being the first such writeup by a couple of years, and it worked for me

 

Thanks guys. Does the new piece screw into the driving light bracket?

 

What's the matter Tuesday isn't soon enough for you? Cutting will work (I think) but still leaves a big chunk of heavy steel in the front end. Like I said the other day ounces add up to pounds.

Jim Mayzurk
93 GTS 5-spd

 

Hey Jim,
Just lookin'.
Happy Birthday.

 

OK guys, I was fooling with the front end and there are a couple of small details you've both neglected to mention.
The clear piece does indeed screw into the hole between the light mounting screws, but you need to take a speed nut off the metal plate you're removing and file the sides down so you can use it for the screw.
When you look at the fasteners holding the 5 mph bumper on it LOOKS like a screw with a nut on it. It's NOT!! What looks like a nut is actually a part of the bolt. Take it from me that the brilliant idea of holding the end of the screw while undoing the nut will end up in one FUBARed screw and one very frustrated and pissed off DIYer.

 

HUH? The Euro lens screws right into the driving light assembly and that's it!...one screw.

HUH? The studs that hold the internal driving light assembly holds the 5mph bumperette as well. All you are doing is removing the 5mph bumperette and putting the light assembly back together. Two nuts, two sizes...larger ID in the rear and smaller id to hold the assembly.

Maybe I am totally missing what you are saying, but I have not encountered anything like what you are saying. Maybe our cars are different! I kinda doubt it though, as I have share my procedure with others and they have had no issue.

Sorry it didn't work well for you Ernest! I hope you figured it out anyway!

 

Keith,
No criticism intended, it's just that neither of you managed to reach down to my level of incompetence when you did your write-ups.
The top picture shows the place where the clear piece screws in and the speed nut you have to install to accept the screw. The bottom pictures show the assembly as it looks from the front, the side, and the actual one piece, double ended screw with center "nut" that you're working with. You can see the results of my attempt to unscrew the nut from the front. Sort of like trying to pick yourself up by your own belt.

 

This is why I said one needs the holes. Because you have to remove that front nut (2 of em) and can only do so from the side.

 

Heinrich,
My point is that they're not nuts. They're bolts with a nut-like center cast into them.

 

Note to self: Learn from other people's mistakes. Thanks for clarifying, Ern! 'Cause I'll be doing this next week when I get back from Germany.

 

OK I see the confusion. My procedure says:

Push a big screwdriver (carefully) between the
US metal piece and the plastic bumper cover, where you've just drilled the rivets out. This allows you to remove the two ***screws***

This means, you push a screwdriver from the front of the car rearwards, between the fog/turn divider and the metal piece you show, where the rivets have just been drilled out. This levers the metal piece forward and toward the centre of the car. This causes the nut (behind the bumper cover) to grip the plastic bumper cover and allows you to turn the entire bolt out of the nuts, catching them behind the bumper cover.

I suppose I should have said:
The bolt looks as if the hex part can come off. It cannot, which is why you have to remove the nuts behind the bumper cover. I think if you follow each step I outline, or each step Keith outlines (though of course Keith's description has way too much info ... then it will work fine. The part in my procedure you missed was 1) you didn't lever the screwdriver in there and 2) you tried turning the bolt against itself from the front.

 

You see, the idea was that I could outsmart all of you and remove the "nut" from the front and grab the "bolt" behind the "nut" and not have to drill any holes.
Like I said, both of you failed to reach down to my level of incompetence.