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Old 11-15-2005, 05:26 PM
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>DR - I noticed the filters as soon as you posted the pics of those great looking kits,
>but i didn't want to introduce any negativity on such a fine effort.

I appreciate the comments, but I don't have any problems with honest feedback or comments, negative or positive.

> Are there any oil-less cone filters out there?

Yes I am looking at those, but due to the location I feel the reusable type would be best.

>That truck looks awesome,

Thanks!

>does it use gas?

Yes, about 17-18mpg with 5 people and a loaded bed full of 928 parts at steady 80mph cruise (7 hour trip to Frenzy).

>Is that blue filter 928 compatible?

Yes, it is a 928 filter, exact size and shape of the K&N. The ram air kit was advertised as having a K&N filter, but it arrived with that blue one. I think it is one of the Green Filter versions (they make them in different colors) and plan to call the Ram Air guys to confirm brand. I also noticed it was not oiled and need to investigate it further.

> I have wanted something better like a foram airhog but there are those here that will say the stock >flows as good as any.

I haven't tried those yet, but Wally has done some research and found the Green Filter brand was flow rated far and above every other brand including K&N.
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Old 11-15-2005, 05:27 PM
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>DR, I though your ram scoops were 'dummies'?

So did I, until I found the manufacturer of the hood and they sent me the "kit". :-)
Old 11-15-2005, 05:30 PM
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Hi Malcolm,

>Dave.............any market for trading our slightly used 928 K&N air filters for some useful >components? Perhaps w can stike a deal with Ford themselves.

:-) !!!

BTW, I got 2 large boxes back from the Postal service today, no explanation at all , but we have the Eibach/Bilsteins back in hand... STRANGE!!!
Old 11-15-2005, 05:32 PM
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It is true that K&N can mess up the hot wire MAF of a 928. My experience is that this is more likely to be due to over-enthusiastic oiling afrer cleaning.

For that reason I don't recommend K&N for >MY85 928s

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Old 11-15-2005, 05:41 PM
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DR, Do you have a part # from Ford or the company that made the kit for the filter?
Old 11-15-2005, 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by DR
Hi Malcolm,

:-) !!!

BTW, I got 2 large boxes back from the Postal service today, no explanation at all , but we have the Eibach/Bilsteins back in hand... STRANGE!!!
Dave............its very disappointing that after all this time there's no note to explain 'what the hell happened' although I believe Jeannie and I have the logistics sorted going forward. Again thanks for your generosity in the second shipment. If possible can you respond to the bump stop question when I transfer the OEM coilvoer pieces to the new springs and shocks?

Sorry for the diversion to the thread folks.
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>If possible can you respond to the bump stop question when I transfer the OEM coilvoer pieces to the new springs and shocks?

You always use (or reuse) the rubber bump stops. The only part not used (that is not included) when going from Boges to Bilsteins is the little metal gold colored cap.

Is this what you mean?
Old 11-15-2005, 05:56 PM
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Matt,

>DR, Do you have a part # from Ford or the company that made the kit for the filter?

APM Automotive is the manufacturer of the hood and airbox kit, here is the link to the kit:

http://www.ramairhood.com/store/scri...p?idproduct=48
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Originally Posted by John Speake
It is true that K&N can mess up the hot wire MAF of a 928. My experience is that this is more likely to be due to over-enthusiastic oiling afrer cleaning.

For that reason I don't recommend K&N for >MY85 928s

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Listen to John! This is as credible of advice as one can get as his company does MAF rebuilds. Either he hates rebuilding them or the gentleman has integrity. I sense the latter.

If & when my MAF finally goes I believe I will go back to paper. Then no more wondering IF I am fouling my sensor or underoiling my filter.
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Originally Posted by DR
>If possible can you respond to the bump stop question when I transfer the OEM coilvoer pieces to the new springs and shocks?

You always use (or reuse) the rubber bump stops. The only part not used (that is not included) when going from Boges to Bilsteins is the little metal gold colored cap.

Is this what you mean?
So the process is once the OEM coil overs are removed I compress the spring, remove the nut, washer and upper spring perch. Release the spring and remove. Then the dust cap, the little metal gold colored cap, the bump stop and the plastic washer are then all tranfered onto the new Bilstiens?
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You got it right except for the "little metal colored cap", again thast only fits boges and konis, not used on Bilsteins.

Just so we don't futher hijack this thread call me tomorrow or e-mail me if I can help you more with this.
Old 11-15-2005, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by James-man
I have had a K&N for nearly 10 years and my MAF has not yet buggered out. Not to say it isn't struggling... I simply don't know as I haven't tested it.

At the next dyno day I might run K&N versus stock. The neat thing about K&N is that you can thoroughly clean it whenever you want to, like, right before a dyno day. Stock filters you can try to blow out particles, but it is not the same degree of clean. I wonder how a K&N would do against a new stock orange filter and then against a used stock orangish brownish filter. You can bring a K&N to as new. If you want "as new" with orange filters you gotta keep buying new ones - a whole lotta them.

How often do you replace the oranges? Annually?
Here are a couple of dyno run graphs from tests I made when improving the performance of my '90GT. These runs were back to back, within a few minutes of each other. The K&N made less power all across the rpm range. I've done several more back to back tests on other 928s and never found the K&N to improve power as compared to a stock Porsche paper filter. The Porsche filter doesn't have to be especially clean to out perform the K&N.

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I hear you, but must question. If someone is going to dyno to see how good their car is, they would probably make sure everything is fit and in good working order before showing up. Some may check plugs, wires, even pop in that new air filter that they have in the 928 Intl or 928 Specialists box in the garage. I like to run fuel injector cleaner a week before going anywhere eventful. I would certainly clean my air filter before going.

So when the tests are done, stock old and dirty or stock new and spotless?

Have to question these things.

Thanks!
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K&N. Reusable. And keeps you from getting speeding tickets.

Not sure how much filtering the poorly fitting K&N does.
But when I look through factory paper filter at a light source, I don't see
anything on the other side.
Look through a K&N, and I can see through pinhole openings of the bright light.

DR, where can we find Green Filter Brand 928 air filter.
Just went to your website and I didn't see it there. Yet?
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:43 PM
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I have a friend in the business that can get you one. Ron V. here on the board has one, you can ask him how he likes it. PM me if you want info...


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