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Old 04-28-2005, 11:38 AM
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Forgot about the non bumperettes on Euro cars. Post the VIN to the list here and someone, or everyone can decode it. On the floor of the hatch area under the carpet is a list of options for the car, check it out and get us those numbers so we can decode it for you.
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And do a search on the forum for engine number location, there are several threads about where it is located.
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Originally Posted by sweanders
Carfax won't work on Polish cars and the light configuration is different on US and ROW cars. A 1990 928 with manual transmission is most definately a GT..
Poland is a country where live magic mechanics., They can build anything That is a reason why i want know how to check it in details. That car have broken clutch, and hadn`t gt sign on the rear that why i suspect swap or sth..
Old 04-28-2005, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by andrew928
Poland is a country where live magic mechanics., They can build anything That is a reason why i want know how to check it in details. That car have broken clutch, and hadn`t gt sign on the rear that why i suspect swap or sth..
Living close to Poland I have heard horror stories about your mechanic skills over there..

Checking the engine number is easy, go ahead and search for the procedure.

Btw, the interior sure looks alternative..
Old 04-28-2005, 12:25 PM
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For the rear end of the car, there are imho another possibily. The fact is that 928 rear end are submit to deformation. Then it make it unproper. The second fact is that Porsche doesnot sale other rear end than the GTS one. It would be the case of that car. Still, th efront end of the car is "bizarre" with black light or even without!

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Old 04-28-2005, 12:32 PM
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Andrew,
The ad says produced in 1987 - so it is a '87 or '88: the VIN will confirm ( right fender near the coolant resevoir). The single tip muffler is common to both '87 and '88 5-sp cars. The GT did not appear until '89, and has the twin tip muffler..
WP0ZZZ92ZJS84xxxx is for a '88 euro - replace the 'J' with 'H' for '87, or with'K' for '90.
No sunroof is common on euros - as on my '88 S4. The engine code is visible on the top rail, front of engine near the right head ( passenger side, LHD): it will read M28/4x xxx xxxxx.
BTW, my '88 euro also has the GTS rear - and was done for cosmetic reasons by the PO AFAIK
Report the M28 and VIN codes if possible.
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Originally Posted by sweanders
Living close to Poland I have heard horror stories about your mechanic skills over there..

Checking the engine number is easy, go ahead and search for the procedure.

Btw, the interior sure looks alternative..
Hehe it`s a true
Why look alternative, does gt had some special interior?
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Its the color baby, yeah. Now that is a bright colored interior.
Old 04-28-2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by puyi
For the rear end of the car, there are imho another possibily. The fact is that 928 rear end are submit to deformation. Then it make it unproper. The second fact is that Porsche doesnot sale other rear end than the GTS one. It would be the case of that car. Still, th efront end of the car is "bizarre" with black light or even without!

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Do U think that car is after crash? Onwer imported it 2 months ago from Switzerland, he is selling because he needs money on 911, but he`s not a person which want to sell a car imidietly, he rather wants sell his 944 then this S4. He told me that car had little paint job on a front and wasted turn lights and fogs, but as i said he dont say nothing about the rear. Maybe the car had crashed rear and he lies or maybe the rear was changed by previous user, the main problem is how to quick check condidtion of the rear body without unmounting the bumper.
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I didn't see the link to the first car until now, is it correct that it was owned byt the Polish Porsche club president? Kind of looks like that in the text but I don't know polish. Give him a call and ask.

It looks a lot like a GT that was out on mobile.de on an add a year ago with a replaced engine.
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Originally Posted by sweanders
I didn't see the link to the first car until now, is it correct that it was owned byt the Polish Porsche club president? Kind of looks like that in the text but I don't know polish. Give him a call and ask.

It looks a lot like a GT that was out on mobile.de on an add a year ago with a replaced engine.
I talked with him and ask of all, he said that only front was touched, but i call to him before i saw that rear bumper is from GTS. Maybe he bought car with this bumper, i dont know.. There`s the link to his car 928 S4 87` <-- u want this link right?
Here`s link to 928 GT 90`
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Can u give me some photos from under the car. I would know how should look a healthy 928 with no accidents, especialy pics from front (engine protecion cover) and rear where bumper is mounted.
Post pics which be usufull in buying a piggy
Old 04-28-2005, 02:00 PM
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I wouldn't trust carfax too much anyways... my friend just bought a "pristine" '99 M3 from a dealer. Carfax was 100% clean. My friend got a small dent on the front/driver side corner and took it in for some work. The body shop (BMW certified) said that the car had been worked on before. There was a bunch of bondo on the hood, and some broken parts behind the front/driver fender.

When I crashed my car, I noticed red paint on some body parts... my car had a clean carfax as well.
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Option code for GT is 639 but it's only used in '89 models. As all '90 and '91 5-speeds are GT's there were no need for separate code anymore.
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to be sure that the car has no big crash you to bring it on an elevator and see the frame under it. You still have marks of repairif the car has been put on a marble.

If it has been a little crash with just rear and front end change and little body repair, then you have to chek the good quality of it.

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