Had a run-in with the police last night! & PICS!
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But in the case of right v. privelege of driving it seems to me to stretch semantic license. Privilege denotes enjoyment of activities not normally available to wide cross sections of the society. Privileges are sometimes awarded, but more frequently out of range of most. Rights are inherently available and widely permitted, absent gross neglect.
Look, you may choose to redefine a legal term to suit your wants, but the definition of privilege, in this case, is a precise legal term. Don't take my word for it. Go to your State's legislative website and look. I challenge you to find the term "right to drive" anywhere. I expect you will find the term privilege, though. Simply put, nowhere in these United States can anyone legally drive any vehicle on any public road without being granted a license. Wanna excercize your "right to drive"? Use a private road or racetrack, there you may excercize your "right" to your heart's content. Lacking that, you better be licensed and sober.
Let's get back to Andrew, shall we? As he said, he was worried about failing the sobreity test. What I don't understand is how in the world that opend up the officer to rebuke. It is my understanding that almost every officer is human. They will naturally treat a person in the kind of manner they are themselves treated (after an initial period of understandable caution). That officer was simply doing his duty. From Andrew's report, the officer was respectful and Andrew's actions were appropriate. Fine.
This isn't an issue of the State's encroachment on our natural rights. Heaven knows there is enough of that happening off the roadways. This is an issue of our responsibility to other motorists. The message we should be taking away from this is that we should excersize good judgement when we drive.
As 928 pilots, we represent a unique segment of the driving public. We are folks who love the classics, regardless of the less refined tastes of others.
Ought not our behavior be just as refined?
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That was precisely my point Simon. The legal use of the term right" needs to be reexamined. A prevailing practice doesn't possess validity because it persists. And calling something a "privelege" doesn't make it an accurate description of the true practice. Many true rights throughout history have been legally denied persistently, but ultimately regained when people ceased accepting legal defintions that were nonsense. Sometimes at great cost.
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Ron, from the perspective of a legal education, the mere fact that a legislature may use a term incorrectly does not make that usage correct. If you perform an action in return for a benefit, your expectation of that benefit has by definition, become a right. But as I say ... no need to argue here about it. It is or it is not
.... Ron, thanks for championing the cause ... you know I am with you.
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Originally Posted by JKelly
Why bother to call him "sir"?