85-86 Fan Help!!
#17
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Originally Posted by Darien Nunn
I started with the fuse and relay, they checked good, so I jumped terminals 30 to 87 and the fan worked. I'm guessing the thermo switch or the wiring that runs from it is the problem.
Again this is my daily driver, anyone know if I can jump from another relay that operates with ignition on and has switch in the car? That would work until I can narrow down my the problem.
Again this is my daily driver, anyone know if I can jump from another relay that operates with ignition on and has switch in the car? That would work until I can narrow down my the problem.
I think you solved your problem - and then jumped over the answer: above it was stated that the relay checked out OK, but the fan started when a jumper wire was inserted 30 - 87 If the latter happened, the relay is likely toast ( follow the diagnostic tree in Wally's post) - or I've misread it.
The AC/fan relay is XVIII, and is common to the starter, FI, EZX, ... - and the horn at XII.
If you have not yet swapped the relay, please do so with the horn ( least invasive one to pull) It is relay type # 141 951 253 B. - and we'll go from there
#18
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Garth,
I swapped the relay another same part number (reverse lights). The fan still did not come on and the reverse lights worked with the relay I pulled from XVIII.
I swapped the relay another same part number (reverse lights). The fan still did not come on and the reverse lights worked with the relay I pulled from XVIII.
#19
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Originally Posted by Darien Nunn
Garth,
I swapped the relay another same part number (reverse lights). The fan still did not come on and the reverse lights worked with the relay I pulled from XVIII.
I swapped the relay another same part number (reverse lights). The fan still did not come on and the reverse lights worked with the relay I pulled from XVIII.
Have you jumpered either of the three triggers for the fan? (listed below) If you do, and the fan energizes - it is working correctly. The most important one for this situation is the rad thermo switch. With the key on, the fan must run - or the relay is not receiving power to pin 86 ( or a ground fault exists on the thermo switch).
As the fan energizes by jumpering 30 to 87 of XVIII, and the relay checks out -
then, I would check the switching side of the XVIII relay socket: switched 12v comes in to pin #86, so with the key on, +12v must be present.
Going through the relay coil and out through pin #85, current will flow to switch the relay on (energizing 87 from 30 to turn the fan on) - if one of the following three closes and completes the circuit to ground: the torque convertor oil temp sensor on autos, the thermo switch in the rad, and/or the freon temp switch.
Get the meter going ... if the jumper wire on the thermo switch does not kick the fan on.
#20
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Thermo Switch officially BAD...
I jumped the wire leads together so I have the fan running with the ignition on.
That should take care of me until I get the clutch fan fixed. Now that I've been driving without it installed, I like the sound and feel of the engine. I may have to check on installing an additional elec fan instead
Thanks all for the help
I jumped the wire leads together so I have the fan running with the ignition on.
That should take care of me until I get the clutch fan fixed. Now that I've been driving without it installed, I like the sound and feel of the engine. I may have to check on installing an additional elec fan instead
Thanks all for the help
#21
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Originally Posted by Darien Nunn
Thermo Switch officially BAD...:
In any event, good news.
#22
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Heads- up!
The thermo switch on my S4 shorted when it got wet. Use appropriate caution when you do the "drop it into hot water" test on the switches and sensors.
The thermo switch on my S4 shorted when it got wet. Use appropriate caution when you do the "drop it into hot water" test on the switches and sensors.