Vilhuer

Guards Red = English language name for 80K
Indiscrot = German language name for 80K
India Red = Alternative English language name for 80K

Same color different name for different languages and different English name for different model years.

Vilhuer

Factory has Exclusive department that does all kinds of interesting and sometimes grazy stuff some customers want. Of course this work has ridiculously high price tag attached to it. Some options were only available through Exclusive department. They were too difficult or rate to be added on normal assembly line. These options have their own sequence of option codes. Some of which are unknown to outsiders.

NaroEscape

I would agree with the India Red being the same as Guards Red and that they were just model year differences, except that both Stan and Chuck Z. had GTS's (which, according to a previous post shoudl both be badged India Red). Stan's stated India, Chuck's stated Guards. And they were definitely different colors when you put them next to each other. The India red was a deeper red....
We also have a '91 GT in Guards red that again looks very different next to the India Red.

Dunno...another one of those Porsche mysteries...

Chuck Z

Both my Guards Red GTS (sold to Gary) and Stan's India Red GTS were/are 93 models and there was/is definitely a difference in the two reds when compared side by side. When someone can definitively explain the actions of Porsche over the years and some of the things they have done let me know. I doubt anyone can with any degree of certainty.

cobalt

I have seen India red and Guards red cars side by side and other than fade which occurs big time with red they looked the same. Red paints break down faster than any other pigment color. The non metallic reds have a tendency to turn orange over time. You can always tell a car that has been garaged vs left to sit in the sun. I have a friend who has an 83 guards red 911. he parks the car under an overhang so the back end gets exposed to the UV more than the rest of the car and after 1 year you could see the fade was so bad that he had to have the rear of the car repainted to match.

There are many posts on this subject covered by different models, all appear to agree it is the same color. I went to the local dealership a few months ago to order Guards red touch up paint for my Calipers (Big Reds are painted Guards/India red) I asked the parts guy what color it was and it was his understanding it was the same color.

I have also heard that the factory may have called it Indian red and Crimson red also but can't be sure. If it is the same paint code it has to be the same color. When you go to order paint how will they know what the formula is? They never go by name, always code.

cobalt

Just got a reply back from Eric from Bumper plugs. If anyone should know he should. He says there the same color.

Chris Lockhart

Thanks Cobalt.

Piet

The german word for India is Indien and Indian translates to Indisch. Hence Indischrot - Indianred

Piet
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pewter82

Update on the India Red and Guards Red debate on this car. I have the car and the sticker on the door jam says 80K Guards Red. I'm not sure why the folks that actually saw the car never saw the sticker on the door jam!

jason

NaroEscape

Jason,
Glad you FINALLY got it.
That's what I kept telling Stan, but when he looked up the the color from the build sheet from PCNA, it said India Red....
Go figure.
Anyway, Stan said he hopes you enjoy the car as much as he did.

cobalt

Jason,

What happened to the Black one? In either case congrats and glad to see things worked out.

pewter82

Black 94 has Paint issues, Service issues, Bodywork issues, ect ect ect
Stan's has no issues.

Jason

IcemanG17

Jason
"No issues" is worth about $10K
Brian

Jim_H

http://www.landsharkoz.com/htm/sc/colourred.htm

pewter82

Brian, 10K more or just 10K