Diesel conversion
 

Browsing the UK site and saw this...

http://www.928.org.uk/images/diesel2.jpg

http://www.928.org.uk/images/diesel1.jpg

:cheers:

Lovin' it.

Now only if they'd supercharge it with a big damn blower through the hood. Looks like all they've got is a turbo on it.

That is awesome, it's still 100% German!

Now that would be a good tow car!

It's interesting and all, but still...WTF?

Awesome! I just wish they woul have used a Mercedes, BMW or Audi V8 turbo diesel insstead. Or mayabe the Vw V10 with 313 HP - but I'm afraid it would rip the transmission into pieces...

Tthe new turbodiesels are so much fun! Too bad they have been outlawed in CA...

Hi Nicole,
at least it is a Bimmer !

Kind regards
Doug

Whats the purpose? Pro / Con

Lots of torque, a lot less fuel, probably less maintenance, and a unique blend of two fine machines... ;)

Rumor has it that there is one or two of those running around in here also. Either with MB or BMW inline six diesel. Reasoning in purely financial. Diesel fuel is cheaper. If one drives more than 20k kilometers per year it makes sense in ones wallet to convert. Not many 928 owners drive that much and I can't see the point of converting as with that much mileage it's cheaper to buy new VW Colf Diesel every three years anyway.

It would make even more sense to buy a new hybrid diesel/electric if economy is the name of the game. The initial investment would be hard to offset I would think, unless you bought one without an engine.

Strange.

I could see a project like this starting at a pub after a few dozen rounds. Towards the end of the evening, one of the parties at the table slamming his fist down yelling:
"Piss off, I could to put a diesel motor in my 928, I'll prove it!"

The rest is history.

Ever see Jay Leno's 400+ hp Ford Festiva? Only a few were made, the idea and concept started with a very similar story as the one I proposed above.

Well ...........................
Ahem ..........................
Er .................................
Hey! Moe!,
Sure cleaned-up the under hood appearances.
And look! Without all that "crap" hanging off the support brace you can paint it
,and it looks so Danishly clean.
I agree with Flint, WTF?
I agree with Joe, What's the purpose -diesel/maint./mileage/money aside- ?
I have a history of saying" it's your sHARk, it's your call.
So:
Stuff a 350 chev in it.
Make a pick-up truck out of it.
Cram a GTS motor in that 79'.
Mate that new Mercedes 7speed auto/paddler to the Euro.
Paint it purple with yellow daisy's, or, pimp green with orange sunflowers.
Velvet interior -Royal Blue- with brocaded draw curtains -Gold Braided- rope tie-backs.
SC.
Twin turbo.
Graphite TT.
1 inch road clearance.
Wheel tubs by Big Daddy Roth.
Straight pipes.
Continental Kit.
BUT, a diesel? I'm drawin' the line!
Tony,
For God's sake!
Stay away from those sHARk Porn sites.

That diesel looks like the BMW engine that Ford offered for a year or two in the Lincoln Mk 7 back in the late '80's. I wonder what the bellhousing bolt spacing looks like...and how close it is to the bellhousing on our 928's. I guess he may have fabricated an adapter plate, but you know that's a rather specific pick...that particular engine. I wonder if that's a bolt-in....

[Interesting: There's a guy here in Orlando who has a carburated Jaguar V12 in his chevy pickup because the bellhousings on the V12 and small-block chevy's are identical...]

N!

PS- In that engine bay picture...the coolant and brake fluid reservoirs are on the wrong sides....is that a UK thing?

Wow, I didn't know about those. Were there many? Did they run well?

yes, do tell!

For one or two years, Ford sold the Lincoln Mark 7's with an optional BMW turbodiesel inline 6. I think it was a 2.4 liter and I think it was around 1985. They were pretty rare-

N!

I wonder if that's the same engine they stuck in foreign Land Rovers before Ford bought Land Rover from BMW.

Here's something about these cars.

www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/486.shtml

N!

:eek: SAVAGES!!! :eek:

:crying: What sacrilige is this????


Tony, my man burn those photos,,, quick

Another Lincoln-BMW reference, though you have to read through it for a while: info.detnews.com/joyrides/story/index.cfm?id=167

I don't have any problems with a performance car powered by a diesel engine; In fact, I'm sure this is the future of Porsche. 10 years from now the majority of cars sold in the United States will be diesels, since we are about to convert to world standards for sulphur-content in our diesel fuel and a whole huge range of 125 mph/ 45 miles per gallon oil-burners are about to invade our shores. I worry about the future availability of 94 octane gasoline for my 10.4:1 compression....

N!

Guys: Get used to the idea of Porsche and diesel. Not only did they build a tractor many years ago, a Cayenne with a turbo diesel is probably not very far away - without it, Porsche's market for the Cayenne in Europe is seriously limited...

I am not against diesels, but in a fine GT such as a 928 :crying:

What will happen to BAWAAAAAAAAH! :eek:

Nic, I have no problem with the diesel concept in a Porsche but raising the bonnet and seeing BMW as the powerplant :crying:.

Well, I can assure you they will cover up the VW logo...

I'm still looking for that reference that I found a few years ago about the fact that Ferdinand Piech wanted a 5.0 liter V10 based upon the standard Volkswagen EA427 motor design [the VW Golf engine] to power Porsches new 1970's GT car. This engine has finally seen the light of day in the Lamborghini Gallardo and in diesel form in the VW Toureg.

I've been told that my green eyes are beautiful. And that engine in the picture isn't bad looking either. What's wrong with a BMW engine?

N!

It is strange that the current VW / Porsche joint venture - the most powerful engine is in the VW. That V10 is one hell of a motor - RUF should make their own version and drop it into a Cayanne.

I understand that to just about everyone here this idea is complete sacrilege and a bastardization of German perfection but I'm curious what it would take to put a duramax diesel in my 82. Just acquired the vehicle and it seems to have a lot of pent up maintenance so I'm not expecting much more life out of the 4.5 it came with. as it is it seems to be running in limp mode and I can't figure out why. My thoughts are to 1) find a 90's gts engine (expensive and hard to find). 2) do the infamous ls swap that seems to be the go to for any project. (Boring but cheap and easy). 3) an American turbo diesel. Maybe a duramax but a Cummins line 6 might be better as far as ease of installation. Cons would be as far as I know this has never been done so it would be expensive and extremely difficult but there's a certain level of ridiculousness that really appeals to me. I'm not dead set on anything yet just curious if anyone here would have any idea if I could get away with just fabricating motor mounts and a bellhousing adapter or if I'd have to make serious changes to the firewall or crossmember.

Your 82 has no " limp mode " .....also has only about 200 RWHP....on a good day.

Still remains an interesting concept to me... but perhaps an Audi or Mercs diesel maybe?

What about the weight alone, seems that the near 50/50 distribution would be all messed up.

I think he meant it's just sick and is limping along

I seem to recall a diesel conversion in Europe.....BMW maybe. After all there have been electric and turbine conversions :) Most anything is possible !! even V-12 has been done.

Hmmm....

Over a dozen years now since this thread was started. In the intervening years, VW/Porsche/Audi diesels have received a serious black eye, and will surely have a very tough time coming back into this market. Of course, the technology has marched along nicely, to the point where there are some really serious performance diesel Merc's and BMW's regularly romping on European motorways at 2x US "safe" speed limits. And yes, I would have one of those here if they were available.

The majority of new cars registered in western Europe in 2016 are diesel powered.....so common as to be the norm.

There are better diesel engines out there that would suit the 928 way better than a Duramax or a Cummins.

that swap sure looks cleanly done though.

Exactly. I didn't notice this was another amazing thread revival.

I was reading and thinking, why all the positive comments about diesels? In fact, even in the EU diesels are on the way out.

In Paris soon you will not be able to drive older diesels for instance. Other cities are considering similar laws.

Here's an interesting link: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/6...f-diesel-cars/

After testing further it seems I have low vacuum Pressure and fuel pressure. The afm doesn't give a consistent resistance as the door opens which explains why it seems so gutless. Its slower than my 91 v6 camaro right now. I understand that a German diesel would be a better fit for the car I've just always been drawn to ludicrous builds that make no sense. I'm fortunate enough to be in se michigan where I can see the Woodward dream cruise every year and I absolutely love the frankencars that roll through. They're art and each one is completely unique.

Sully --

Start a separate thread about your car and the symptoms you are experiencing. There's a wealth of knowledge available here in the forum ready to get to work with you on the problems.

well, if he had a diesel-swap he would have a problem with vacuum :roflmao:

+1:thumbsup: