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Old 10-29-2004, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 944S Boyeee
Tom - make sure you PM me around that time and we will have to go out or something for sure. Have some Canadian beer and talk conspiracy theories/Jeff Rense and UFO's. Perhaps she will still be living in Nova Scotia at that time I will introduce you to her....and in the meantime, I will still keep looking for those pics. Any thoughts on them maybe still being "hidden" on my computer???
Boyee,

I'm not a fan of Rense, he is an anti-semite America hater. But I was a guest on a his radio show about 3 times in the past. No longer will put up with his hatred and doom and gloom stuff.

I have a GF I love so I don't need to meet any new ones! Thanks anyway. We'll have to hook up for beer regardless.

Don't bother trying to undelete the pics, its too hard to do. If you are using XP. Your OS never really deletes the pics even if you empty the recyle bin. XP secretly stores them in a hidden place that is in the Fat32 file system, but there are no visible folders to access them.

To try, you'll need forensic software for harddrive retrieval that is expensive and tedious. Some parts are hidden in your windows swap file also. The only hard to permanately delete files is to fill your hard drive up with infomation to make it full. Then it will finally overwrite the hidden stuff.

Even during reformating it don't wipe it out unless you have something that writies zeros and ones and fills it up doing a reformat.
Old 10-29-2004, 02:38 PM
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I have heat in my seats. The butt area of the seat gets warm, as does the lower back, lumbar area. I wish it when higher to the sholder areas, but mine dont. My car does have over 100k on it now, and it could just be getting old. I love my heated seats. I dont run the heat, just turn on the seats.
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Old 10-29-2004, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by hans14914
I have heat in my seats. The butt area of the seat gets warm, as does the lower back, lumbar area. I wish it when higher to the sholder areas, but mine dont. My car does have over 100k on it now, and it could just be getting old. I love my heated seats. I dont run the heat, just turn on the seats.
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That's what I tried doing last night too - no heat and just turned on the seats. I was warm, mind you, but figured the seats would get noticeably hot. Perhaps they were working somewhat (like I said, I wasn't cold). My car has around 50,000 miles, so they *should* be still working.
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Originally Posted by Red UFO
Boyee,

I'm not a fan of Rense, he is an anti-semite America hater. But I was a guest on a his radio show about 3 times in the past. No longer will put up with his hatred and doom and gloom stuff.
Well, then Rense if off the agenda!!! - I figured you were a fan due to some links to his site in the past.

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I have a GF I love so I don't need to meet any new ones! Thanks anyway. We'll have to hook up for beer regardless.
Yes, for sure - I actually meant just an introduction to meet her in general - but it's good to know you are attached none-the-less.

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Don't bother trying to undelete the pics......(followed by a lot of stuff I don't fully understand)
No worries - not going to delve that deep to find the pics. I'm sure I will eventually get a new copy of the original CD when she is single again.
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The heaters in my GTS heat the center seat bottom and the side bolsters as well as the center seat back - I'm really not sure it heats the side back bolsters - but I think so. If you set it to high it should be quite noticeable within ~2mins (it takes a while to heat through the leather fully).

I'd recommend you cover the seats with a blanket and turn it on for a few mins then check with your hand on the various spots - tough to tell with a cold butt!

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I did find out that the passenger side works fine, but not the drivers side (Boooo!!!).

I still haven't had a chance to look at the drivers side yet.
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The seat heaters are basically an electric blanket with a bunch of wires under the leather . Each seat has three "toaster" elements ....bottom center ,one which fits the two side bolsters on the bottom , and the last fits the lower center of the back rest. The seat relay is part 928 618 521 00 . I think it is under the seat ........ RELAY RELAY RELAY .........It would be unusual for all three elements to fail (wires break) so focus on the relay maybe borrow the one from the passenger seat , then try the switch as always check fuses.
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Originally Posted by Red UFO
........... the pics, its too hard to do. If you are using XP. Your OS never really deletes the pics even if you empty the recyle bin. XP secretly stores them in a hidden place that is in the Fat32 file system, but there are no visible folders to access them.To try, you'll need forensic software for harddrive retrieval that is expensive and tedious. Some parts are hidden in your windows swap file also. The only hard to permanately delete files is to fill your hard drive up with infomation to make it full. Then it will finally overwrite the hidden stuff. Even during reformating it don't wipe it out unless you have something that writies zeros and ones and fills it up doing a reformat.
red ..... too funny. Where is this "hidden" area 51?

Here's the deal.

Not everyone uses FAT32 and in fact I believe most XP installations use NTFS. However, that has nothing to do with the ability or inability to retrieve deleted files. Yes, FAT used to erase files by simply erasing the first part of the filename, however since the Operating System has become large and complex since the days of DOS and Windows 3, there is little chance you will be able to "undelete" anything the way we used to in DOS ie by simply renaming the files to a filename in stead of something like "$ed_UFO.txt".

So. Back to the OS. Actually there are many tools for permanently deleting files from a storage device. Using format and FDISK or "partition" etc, you can easily do it, and Red, the only way to then retrieve those files is for a forensic team to spend (literally) millions of dollars to retrieve the magnetic ghost traces from the drive. This means that although the nagnetic particles are re-aligned, they still retain "ghost" images of what was there before, especially when looked-at as a bigger picture. Ain's gonna happen for Joe User unless his real name happens to be Al Kider.

Bottom line: In XP, delete a file, empty the recycle bin and it is gone. Forever.



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