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Old 09-16-2004, 11:33 AM
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Default Netherlands help w possible scammer

could one our Netherlands friends out there confirm this company please
probable scammer, if so that would be 4 from 1 classified ad here
(classifieds maybe need to be member area only?)

Dear,
I am JACKEKOLI ROSIROVANI of Prinsenstraat 9, Amsterdam,Holland,1015
BR, Netherlands.I want to buy your antique car stated above for the
price of $14,000 .Pls,i want to also know your last price and also
make it known that i intend paying with a cheque.Hope this is
acceptable to you.

Feel free to e-mail me or call on 316-248-45670 for further
details,questions and clarifications.Also,include full details and
pictures for my consideration.
Regards.
Jack...
Old 09-16-2004, 01:17 PM
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This is scam. There is no reason to buy a US 928 and sell it in Europe. The past scams have been sent from the UK.
Old 09-16-2004, 01:22 PM
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That sounds just like the "offers" I got when I was temporarily braindead (trying to sell my 928) (I got better...I think). I ignored them, but several people suggested baiting them. Up to you.

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My brother in law played there game for a few months, thought he'd be able to get the upper hand, meet them somehwere with some friends,,,,you get the idea.

The bank told him to contact the police, they would not touch the money order. The local police told him to just drop it.

So much for trying to stop them.
Old 09-16-2004, 02:11 PM
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Like Rich said, makes very little sense to buy a used 928 in the States and ship it to Holland, or anywhere else in the EU for that matter. The cellphone number is missing a digit I think. Without the countrycode 31 there should be 10 digits in a phone number. What's the scam here though, they will want you to send money to them somewhere along the way to straighten out some administrative problems or so ?

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Rixster,

I had a similar scam on a guy trying to buy my Honda accod. I only wanted 44500 for it and there was a guy in Florida, supposedly, that sent me a check for 49,000 from Union Federal Bank. Looked legitimate, but, I called the bank and the Serial numbers on the bottiom were off by a few numbers. I sent the check to the bank. The Scam was that the guy offered twice as much money and wanted me to send him a Good Check from me for 1/2 the price. Then he would have his money and never pick up the car. The money was to be routed to Nigeria!!!!

Duh!
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Typo... I meant $4500 for it and he sent $9,000 for the Honda Accord. Caps lock and I'm at work being interrupted all of the time.
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I was gonna say, that is one expensive Accord!
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ok we have scammers lurking in the classifieds here, I only have an ad here and that is now 4 emails for folks overseas wanting to buy a car I'm parting out, this one actually left a phone #, and his email addy traces back to some bible group (hacked probably) which is a change in and of itself... time for some detective work on the ol puter...
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Hey Rixter,

It just came to me that the phonenumber should work. He left out the zero before the six because of the countrycode of course. Just got back from a busy day at the office, sorry 'bout the mixup. Maybe I'll call this guy tomorrow, might be fun.

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Scam all the way. I've been down this road several times. I've gotten two checks (cheques) from purportedly US banks that were both fake.

Notice how he gives you all his personal information, but wants to buy your antique car ? Not your 928, or your Porsche, but the generic antique car statement. This email is generated for mass mailings to 1000s of people. Once the respondents email back, the demands will get more strange, usually ending with you sending CASH via Western Union, or a CASH deposit to a fake trustee or escrow service.

The average loss reported to the justice dept is $3300 per transaction. One guy sent TWO sequential cash payments for $6500 each! DOH!

There's some things you can do at the network level to trace the sender, but it ususlly ends up in an anonymizer or untracable IP. I just went through it on a Lamborghini in "Greece" that sounded like a very good deal. I finally told the seller to take the car to my solicitor office in Athens where he will be paid in full, in USD or Drakmhas, including a delivery fee. I never heard from him again.
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Here are a few more examples of scams on the net.
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Dear friend,

I am Mrs. Sese-seko widow of late President Mobutu Sese-seko of Zaire, now known as Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC). I am moved to write you this letter. This was in confidence considering my present circumstance and situation. I escaped along with my husband and two of our sons Joseph and Basher out of Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC) to Abidjan, Cote d'ivoire where my family and I settled, while we later moved to settled in Morroco where my husband later died of cancer disease.

However, due to this situation we decided to change most of my husband's billions of dollars deposited in Swiss bank and other countries into other forms of money coded for safe purpose because the new head of state of (Dr) Mr Laurent Kabila has made arrangement with the Swiss government and other European countries to freeze all my late husband's treasures deposited in some european countries. Hence, my children and I decided laying low in Africa to study the
situation till when things gets better. Like now that president Kabila is dead and the son taking over (Joseph Kabila). One of my late husband's chateaux in Southern France was confiscated by the french government, and as such I had to change my identity so that my investment will not be traced and confiscated.

I have deposited the sum Fourteen Million United State Dollars (US$14,000,000,00.) With a security company for safe keeping. What I want you to do is to indicate your interest that you can assist us in receiving the money on our behalf, so that I can introduce you to my son (Joseph) who has the out modalities for the claim of the said funds. I want you to assist in investing this money, but I will not want my identity revealed. I will also want to acquire real/landed
properties and stock in multi-national companies and to engage in other safe and non-speculative investments as advise by your good self.

May I at this point emphasize the high level of confidentiality, which this upcoming project demands, and hope you will not betray the trust and confidence, which I repose in you.In conclusion, if you want to assist us, my son (Joseph) shall divulge to you all briefs regarding this project, tell you where the funds are currently being maintained and also discuss remuneration for your services.For this reason kindly furnish us your contact information,that is your personal telephone and fax number for validation purpose and acknowledge receipt of this mail using the above email address.

Yours sincerely,
Mrs. Mariam M. Seseseko.
-another scam ---------------
FROM THE DESK OF:
DR.BALA RIBADU.
ABUJA,Nigeria.
Emailrribadu1@masrawy.com




Attn:President/ceo.
Dear Sir,

REQUEST FOR AN URGENT CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP.

First i must solicit your strictness in this transaction. After due deliberation with my colleagues,I have decided to forward to you this business proposal. We want a reliable person who could assist us to transfer the sum of Twenty Million One Four Hundred Thousand United States Dollars($21,400,000) into your account. This fund resulted by way of gratification from a contract awarded by us under the budget allocation to my Ministry and this bill has been approved
for payment by the concerned Ministries.

The contract has since been executed, commissioned and the contractor company, paid off. We are left with the balance of US$21.4M which was given to us by the company for influencing the contract in their favour amidst heavy competition from rival companies.

But under our protocol division,civil servants are forbidden to operate or own foreign accounts. This is why I am contacting you to be our custodian for this funds. As you may want to know and to make you less curious, I got your contact address over the internet, after series of intensive search. I am the Director of the Contract Review Panel(CRP)of the Federal Ministry of Works&Housing(FMW&H).

This transaction is very much free from all sorts of RISKS and TROUBLES from any quarters whatsoever. We the FMW&H Officials involved in this deal have put in many years in service to this Ministry. We have been exercising patience for this opportunity for so long and to most of us this is a life time opportunity we cannot afford to miss. You need not to worry about the responsibilities of transferring this fund into your account,for all the administrative steps needed for the transfer of this fund into your designated bank account will be done by i and my colleagues have agreed to make your COMPENSATE 30% for you if agreement is reached by both of us. And 60% for we the official.

After the transaction is completed I and family members will come over to your country for my own part of the share. And 10% for expenses incured in duration of the business. Consequent upon your acceptance of this proposal,kindly confirm your interest to me,through my Emailrribadu1@masrawy.com

Please indicate your interest by revert Email to me of your sincere and serious interest will enable me send you the PROCEDURE FOR OPERATION. NOTE:In the event of your inability to handle this transaction please inform us so that we can look for another reliable person who can assist in this respect.It might surprise you why we choose you and trusted you for this transaction. Yes,we believe that good friends can be discovered and business like this can not be realised without trust. This is why we have decided to trust you for this transaction. We are looking forward to doing this transaction with you. Be further informed that everyones interest and security had been considered before you were contacted, so be rest assured and feel free to go into this transaction with us. But let Honesty and Trust be our watchword throughout this transaction and your prompt reply will be highly appreciated.

Thank you and God bless.

Best Regards,
DR.BALA RIBADU.
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You want to know the very sad thing about all this? They're getting away with this. They are taking someone or else they would stop this rediculousness. There is a poor slob out their who has their head in their hands wondering how this could happen. I guess they will get theirs when someone cares enough to do domething about it. Right now if it is not lining some politicians pocket they could care less about this stuff. Very sad.
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Piet
tell him you're my european rep and will be handling the details...



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