Notices
928 Forum 1978-1995
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: 928 Specialists

Recommendations needed: where to set Koni Red shocks stiffness-wise

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-27-2004, 10:53 PM
  #1  
Thaddeus
Deer Slayer
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Thread Starter
 
Thaddeus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default Recommendations needed: where to set Koni Red shocks stiffness-wise

Hi,

I'm putting in Koni Red Internally Adjustable shocks this weekend, front and rear.

Because I don't want to have to disassemble everything to "dial in" the stiffness, I'd like peoples input before they go in.

I am running the stock springs. I will run it at stock height. I have Dunlop tires.

I want a compliant ride, but firm through the twisty stuff. A little harshness does not bother me: I want the car to be more nimble, less prone to wallowing. On the other hand, I don't like losing fillings or feeling like somebody's compressing my spine with repeated jolts.

Full soft? Medium? Full stiff? What do you all think? My first impulse was to set for full soft, but some threads I read seemed to imply this would make the ride too harsh ( contrary to my hunch).

Thanks in advance.
Old 08-27-2004, 11:50 PM
  #2  
GlenL
Nordschleife Master
 
GlenL's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
Posts: 7,651
Received 22 Likes on 21 Posts
Default

I've got my Konis set 3/4's hard but with stiffer springs. This is great on the track and smooth in-town highways. Brutal on expansion joints and potholes.

One of the keys to good suspension tuning is to match the resistance of the shock to the strength of the spring. So my recommendation is less than 3/4s. Maybe 1/4 to 1/2. When I was setting mine, I measured 2 and 1/2 turns of available range so maybe 1 full turn.

Here's a couple of tips: The shocks don't like being compressed upside down. (At least mine didn't) Also, you should match the rebound rate of the bare shock. That is, compress the shock and watch how ilong it takes to extend. The pairs should match, but not front/back as the front springs are stiffer.
Old 08-28-2004, 12:47 AM
  #3  
Paul D
Addict
Rennlist Member

 
Paul D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Endwell, New York
Posts: 620
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Try a search using "Question about Koni Reds". This thread has some useful information about a Koni/Eibach setup. Koni Reds
Old 08-28-2004, 07:18 AM
  #4  
Garth S
Rennlist Member
 
Garth S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 7,210
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 13 Posts
Default

For a balance that I like for spirited driving on twisty country roads, I settled on a rebound adjustment of +5/8 turn ( of the 2.5 available). Your teeth and fillings will be OK ....
Old 08-28-2004, 02:43 PM
  #5  
Thaddeus
Deer Slayer
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Thread Starter
 
Thaddeus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

I'll start with 1 full turn. We'll see.
Old 08-28-2004, 05:01 PM
  #6  
Thaddeus
Deer Slayer
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
Thread Starter
 
Thaddeus's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 25,565
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

1 full turn is certainly not too stiff. Feels OK. I might want to go stiffer, but I'll have to wait until the fronts are in to really decide.

On hard cornering with old Boges in the front and new Konis in the rear, I got some squealing in back. The front mooshes down too much and the inside rear corner starts to lose grip. More or less what I expected.
Old 08-28-2004, 07:14 PM
  #7  
Carl Fausett
Developer
 
Carl Fausett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Horicon, WI
Posts: 7,005
Likes: 0
Received 60 Likes on 44 Posts
Default

The adjustment you speak of only affects the rate of rebound - the rate of compression on the internally adjustable Koni's is not adjustable.

I dial mind completely closed, then back it out 1/2 turn in the fron and 3/4 turn in the rear. That's a good auto-cross setup.

We now market a Koni tool on our website that allows you to change the valve adjustment of these Koni Reds in about 3 minutes per shocjk - while they are in the car!
Old 08-29-2004, 09:12 PM
  #8  
John Pirtle
Rennlist Member
 
John Pirtle's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 74
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

That adjustment tool is pretty neat!

In my experience the Koni's at 1/2 turn clockwise from soft stop is close to the Boges.

My PO had put on Koni's (used) and one of the front's went bad. I freeway commute and wanted a softer ride so put new Boges on front. He had the rear Koni's about 60% which was too firm for Boge's on the front. I'm pleased with the ride - it's comfortable but remains composed. However the car was much more rock solid performance-wise when I had all Koni's. The PO had them set at 60/40% front/rear. That really kept the car flat and tight, not really too bad for street driving. But my commute is a concrete freeway....



Quick Reply: Recommendations needed: where to set Koni Red shocks stiffness-wise



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 08:13 AM.