Ed MD

The only thing that I don't like about the 88 S4, is the fact that it doesn't have remote door locking. I've had enough problems with the 85's after-market alarm , an excellent one- Excalibre, that I've all but disabled everything other than the remote. Has anyone installed just a remote door locking, and what did you use? Does the factory alarm engaged with the central locking, if that is used to actuate the remote, or is it only through the keys? Thanks Ed M



88 S4, AT,RMB,17' 996 wheeels
85 S,5spd,autoauthority chip,Avenger II exhaust

Jim bailey - 928 International

Alarm arms / disarms only with the key as door is manually locked or unlocked with the long key .......

Ed MD

Thanks Jim, so the remote would not arm the factory alarmand to have an alarm would need an aftermarket addition. Which is the best for the S4, i.e. lest obstrusive to the electronics, and any recommendations for insallation in the Atlanta area? Thanks Ed M

tuk_928

Hi Ed,

I recall that one of our fellow Rennlisters..."Sidepipe _____" who was up at SITM 2004 had a very nice remote system (locks?, starter, etc) installed on his 928S. Said he performed the installation himself. Sorry I cannot recall his full name. I've seen his system installed on BMWs...it is always advertised in Roundel each month...usually on the rear inside cover.

Best regards,
Tim

Normy

GAWD I want this feature!

My girlfriend's Peugeot has a system that operates via a button on her key. Its too easy! Every time I drive her 406 Coupe, I'm like "I am going to figure out how to put this feature on my 928!"

Most door locks are driven by solenoids, as are Olivia's. VW's, SEAT's, Skoda's and a few others use a pneumatic system that is bulletproof, in contrast with what was installed in the very earliest 928's. Our cars use a servo- very similar to what model airplanes use to move their control surfaces. This is the big hitch- finding a system that was designed for the average Nissan/Ford/Lada/VW that will also work with a hand-built 928 electrical system. Another big problem revolves around the fact that most aftermarket systems are installed by people who who's previous jobs rotated between Little Caesars Pizza, janitorial services, and lawn maintenance.

[Incidently, I've worked at all the above....]

-So I wind up installing the system myself. I'm sure I could do a first class installation; my dad is an electrical engineer by trade, and I grew up with a multitester. As long as it is 12 volts or less, I'm confident. I'm sure that I can install ANY electronic component correctly, given time...which I have, since I have a second car ['97 Ford Aerostar] to rely upon.

The only thing: It would take me a month to do it right!

-I get little time off at home, and those days are at the end and the beginning of the month, typically. Listen...when I get home, I want to let my hair down and just go out and burn the tires! I love working on my car, but I want to drive it more.

Thats the problem with an aftermarket system: it takes too much time to install correctly!

N!

PS: I'm sure it will happen eventually-

ROG100

Hi,
I fitted a remote lock/unlock to my GTS. All the help came from a fellow rennlister, "Alan" so he should get any kudos.
It locks/unlocks the doors with a separate function for the rear hatch. Maintains all the functions of the factory system including setting and unsetting the alarm.
Was easy to fit and cost about $45. I used a Commando system.
I have a wiring/instruction diagram if any body is interested.
Please PM me.
Best,
Roger

jej3

Roger,

I am interested!

Thanks.

Trey

Alan

Yup - as Roger says - for any 928 with electric locks its pretty easy.

Its feasible with a fairly cheap system to maintain the factory alarm (and when working correctly this is a very good alarm - so why not) , add key less entry, panic button, rear hatch opener along with the usual lock/unlock light flashing and even Chirp/Honk if you want. Best of all the keys still work normally and arm/disarm the alarm just as they do now - so you can use any combination of remote & keys.

PS you can even get it to do the sequential window close & sunroof close in the lock position (this is much cooler than doing it with with the key)

This was one of the most satisfying & relatively easy things to do - why this car did not come with this I don't understand (well for the later models anyway...).

Alan

PS only by helping Roger do his install did I get around to tidying up the final install & eliminating the rats nest of wires - Thanks Roger!

justin

Can tou install a keyless entry system on an 80?

justin

Can you install a keyless entry system on an 80?

Ed Scherer

Here's a diagram for the keyless entry install I did about four years ago. As Alan stated, keyless entry can be added to a 928 (at least for my '90) in a very non-invasive way, i.e., not disturbing the original operation of locks, alarm, etc.



Before attempting to use any of the info off this diagram, though, definitely confirm things with the wiring diagrams for your model years. I know that there were many changes over the years.

For my '90, the most significant related (to keyless entry installation) info out of the FSM was Sheet 3 Body and Sheet 11 Central Electric.

Finally, to get the hatch release to work (something I forgot to show in the above diagram), you need to make a slight modification to the ground used by the hatch release motor. You can make this modification at the connector T9 below the hatch release motor. You just need to move the brown wire from one pin on the connector to the other pin as shown below. This does compromise safety somewhat, as it allows the hatch release to be engaged at any time rather than just when a door is open.

Rez

I swear I learn something new on this board everyday.

User 4221

Yes,
I installed keyless entry on my '81. The trick is to install an aftermarket door lock actuator (motor) where it manually locks/unlocks the driver's door. It emulates the key function of manually locking/unlocking.

I bought my actuator from Best Buy for about $20.
SPAL makes some nice units as well if you want to stay German.

Since our cars are master/slave setups, by manipulating one door, the other follows.

I like this setup as it does not interfere with factory wiring but still yields the same effect.

Alan

Just a PS - I found the surprisingly hard part was removing the passenger seat (which for a GTS is required). The alarm units wandered around the car by model year so be careful of this before you dismantle the console only to discover - nothing... well you get the idea.

Alan

Kevin in Atlanta

Alan, is there a parts list and write up available for wiring my GTS for keyless entry?