Power Steering sealing washers
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Power Steering sealing washers
I'm in the process of replacing my high pressure power steering line and according to the PET, there are two sealing washers at each connection. However when I removed the original factory lines, there was only a washer between the banjo and the pump and the same with the banjo at the rack. There wasn't a washer between the banjo and the bolt head. The banjo at the return line also only had one washer as well.
Should I install the new lines with two washers at each connection or just one like it was originally installed at the factory?
Should I install the new lines with two washers at each connection or just one like it was originally installed at the factory?
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I did that job in 2014 if I remember well but don't remember if there was one or two washers at each ends.
If you don't get an answer before, I can go look on the car later today and report back.
The car is on jack stands right now and I need to remove the belly pan anyway.
If you don't get an answer before, I can go look on the car later today and report back.
The car is on jack stands right now and I need to remove the belly pan anyway.
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Brent A. (05-11-2024)
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It’s too lng since I last installed lines at rack to be absolutely certain, but I’m 99% sure you need two washers. I do recall needing two at other banjo locations e.g fuel pump, PS pump, calipers.
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Thanks Bertrand,
Putting a washer on both sides of the banjo seems logical to me and the norm, my only concern is will it mess with the lining up of the existing orifices between the bolt and the banjo? I'm sure I'm just overthinking it though.
Putting a washer on both sides of the banjo seems logical to me and the norm, my only concern is will it mess with the lining up of the existing orifices between the bolt and the banjo? I'm sure I'm just overthinking it though.
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Bertrand Daoust (05-11-2024)
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As Supercedar says its 2.
NOTE only use 2 NEW copper sealing washers per banjo connection.
Thats at the pump and the rack.
NOTE its quite possible the missing sealing washer is in fact stuck to the bolt head,
use a razor blade to find it.
NOTE the used washer will usually leak since it been work hardened.
NOTE DONT USE ALUMINUM sealing washers for these lines.
Some people have used a torch to anneal these used washers,
but fresh is always best.
NOTE only use 2 NEW copper sealing washers per banjo connection.
Thats at the pump and the rack.
NOTE its quite possible the missing sealing washer is in fact stuck to the bolt head,
use a razor blade to find it.
NOTE the used washer will usually leak since it been work hardened.
NOTE DONT USE ALUMINUM sealing washers for these lines.
Some people have used a torch to anneal these used washers,
but fresh is always best.
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Was there ever any consensus on substituting generic rubber-bonded 14x18 steel washers in place of these copper crush washers?
Someone said that Amazon bought washers were fine and they didn't leak. Someone else said they bought neoprene-bonded steel washers from a heavy equipment manufacturer (CAT 376-2469).
Someone said that Amazon bought washers were fine and they didn't leak. Someone else said they bought neoprene-bonded steel washers from a heavy equipment manufacturer (CAT 376-2469).
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get a box of the metal O ringed sealing washers ,
and see how they work,
or keep it stock.
and see how they work,
or keep it stock.
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I've been using some of those bonded sealing washers for other applications (auto trans pan, differential on a different car, low pressure power steering hose on a different different car) and they've been good so far. I don't expect that the pressure in the HPPS line would change any of that. That said, McMaster sells copper crush washers for not very much at all, and those also work great.
And you heard from the man, but I also concur that it's a washer on either side of the banjo bolt, for each connection.
Good luck
And you heard from the man, but I also concur that it's a washer on either side of the banjo bolt, for each connection.
Good luck
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As Supercedar says its 2.
NOTE only use 2 NEW copper sealing washers per banjo connection.
Thats at the pump and the rack.
NOTE its quite possible the missing sealing washer is in fact stuck to the bolt head,
use a razor blade to find it.
NOTE the used washer will usually leak since it been work hardened.
NOTE DONT USE ALUMINUM sealing washers for these lines.
Some people have used a torch to anneal these used washers,
but fresh is always best.
NOTE only use 2 NEW copper sealing washers per banjo connection.
Thats at the pump and the rack.
NOTE its quite possible the missing sealing washer is in fact stuck to the bolt head,
use a razor blade to find it.
NOTE the used washer will usually leak since it been work hardened.
NOTE DONT USE ALUMINUM sealing washers for these lines.
Some people have used a torch to anneal these used washers,
but fresh is always best.
I was gone all day and just got home and went out to garage and checked the banjo bolts again. It took a 3rd. look but the washers are there stuck under the head of the bolts. I keep my old (lower powered) readers out there for garage work but apparently I need to get some stronger ones for out there as well. Also just as Stan had stated, I needed a razor blade to separate them from the bolt.
And yes, I will be installing all new copper washers in the proper OE size on the banjo’s.
Thank you to everyone for the quick responses!
Back to getting the car ready for the upcoming trip to SITM.
Last edited by Brent A.; 05-11-2024 at 10:17 PM.
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I’m in the process of doing my ‘79, if it helps at all…each banjo had 2 washers.