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Old 05-11-2024 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Knox
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I had a business relationship for a few years in the mid/late 80's with a pretty well known Porsche guy at Weissach who owned and drove a 911SC - named Hans Mezger (widely considered one of the two best engine designers of the 20th century). At lunch one day I asked Hans what 'used' Porsche I should buy. Pretty long discussion by Hans and an engineering associate, but the summary was: "Buy a 928 or a 911SC - they are the two best cars we've made to date". I've owned seven 928's since that conversation. Similar to @bubba928, I tracked S4's for about 15 years, including 2 automatics. Similar vintage 911 drivers were frequently quite surprised that an 'old man' driving a 928 could pass them on the track (even with the automatic!). The car was far more capable on the track than I was!

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Originally Posted by Gary Knox
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Hans was responsible for the original 911 6 cylinder engine which debuted in USA in 1964. At the time I was meeting with him, he was the head of Engine Development at Weissach. He was still involved in every engine development through the GT3 (which is appropriately referred to as the Mezger engine). A very humble, congenial, and wonderful man to get to know. I felt very privileged to do so.

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I understand that he also was responsible for the 912 (?) Engine of the 917, not to mention the F1 engine of the 80s, and many other projects.
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PK68,
Yes, Hans was deeply involved in all Porsche racing engines including the incredible 12 cylinder of the 917 (there is one of those engines completely dis-assembled and on display in the Porsche museum - VERY impressive) . Their involvement in Le Mans racing with cars like the 962 was where our work with him was focused.

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Originally Posted by SwayBar

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And I can tell you from 20+ years of personal experience that the 928's styling is very polarizing. When the 993 and S4 are seen together, it has been a unanimous decision that the 993 is a much, much better looking car.
that typically only happens in groups of 911 guys. Notably, the 911 has never won any significant design awards while the 928 has. Attend a 928 event and you’ll get the opposite prevailing opinion. Personally, no 911 iteration comes close in beauty to the 928 in my opinion (I started a thread on it here, in fact - I think the 928 is the most beautiful car ever made). As an active member of the local PCA club ( past President among other duties), I find most “Porsche “ people, I.e., 911 guys, have a very narrow view of beautiful car design. They tend to like the 911, and not much else.
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Originally Posted by gazfish
Same here, he was big into the suspension and tire technology. He had a Honda for a long time that he seemed to be continually tweaking.
I think it was a Prelude, and he could write an entire article on how satisfying was the design of its delicate, slim steering wheel!
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Correct, a mk 2 auto Prelude VT if I correctly recall, on which he used to continuously experiment with tires.
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Originally Posted by PK68
Correct, a mk 2 auto Prelude VT if I correctly recall, on which he used to continuously experiment with tires.
Oh dear....... my newly found respect for him just evaporated........

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Originally Posted by linderpat
that typically only happens in groups of 911 guys. Notably, the 911 has never won any significant design awards while the 928 has. Attend a 928 event and you’ll get the opposite prevailing opinion. Personally, no 911 iteration comes close in beauty to the 928 in my opinion (I started a thread on it here, in fact - I think the 928 is the most beautiful car ever made). As an active member of the local PCA club ( past President among other duties), I find most “Porsche “ people, I.e., 911 guys, have a very narrow view of beautiful car design. They tend to like the 911, and not much else.
It is mostly subjective at the end of the day but I never thought the 928 or 911 were 'beautiful' car designs personally. The 911 has always looked spritely and is a neat little package, and the 928 looks avant garde like a concept car. Both positive descriptors nevertheless. That is part of the 911's enduring adoration for sure, they look sporty and simple in their design language.

Just three of my favourite designs for example are the Lamborghini Espada, Ferrari 365 GTC/4 and Ford Granada Coupe so I don't exactly gravitate to the conventionally beautiful! I like quirks; parts of a design that don't work too well and make the car stand out as interesting. That's what the 928 design says to me, it stands out as interesting and (early cars) very 1970s concept car in appearance..which is my favourite decade in car design!

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I started reading LJK's articles for CAR when I was 9 years old living in London, I bought ever CAR magazine from 1980 to about 1984 and then sporadically up until the early '90s. The editorial staff of CAR mag. was first class with Gavin Green and Steve Cropley amongst others.

I still have all these magazines today, some 40+ years later so they must have really meant the world to me to cart them around from country to country and continent to continent.

I will have to go back and dig through all the 928 articles featured in CAR, they were particularly enamored when the S2 made its debut and now had 300-hp.

@8cyl - I'm with you...love the Espada and the 365 GTC/4...handsome and timeless cars.
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This website has many period road tests of the 928:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/trigge...ff/collections

@8cyl count me as another fan of both the Espada and the GTC/4!
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LJKS likely drove at least one if not all of my press cars, noted here with #1 (press launch photo, car and driver June 1977)




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