Need help with braided steel fuel lines.
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Need help with braided steel fuel lines.
Where is a good place to buy these, brands, etc....
Where am I using these?
The steel lines that enter the engine compartment from the gas tank have about 7 inches of rubber line going to the steel fuel lines on the motor. I want to replace these with braided steel fuel lines.
With that being said, what are the connections called, what size etc... do I need to look for. I know adaptors are made for the US sizes to connect to metric fuel lines. I'd rather do this with pre-made hoses than make my own.
Thanks!
Where am I using these?
The steel lines that enter the engine compartment from the gas tank have about 7 inches of rubber line going to the steel fuel lines on the motor. I want to replace these with braided steel fuel lines.
With that being said, what are the connections called, what size etc... do I need to look for. I know adaptors are made for the US sizes to connect to metric fuel lines. I'd rather do this with pre-made hoses than make my own.
Thanks!
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No idea if this helps, but I have purchased AN to metric fittings from Kinsler Fuel Injection in the past so I could run some Bosch external fuel pumps on a "race car" of mine.
Might want to research the different steel braided lines, there are different ways to make them. I believe the teflon lined ones are the best in regards to not deteriating(sp?) and giving fuel fume smells that people like to complain about. However they might require a different type of AN fitting than the other lines do.
There is a hose that I have seen a handful of people use on their fuel systems instead of the steel braided lines, it is blue in color and supposed to be a lot easier to assemble the AN fittings onto it.
Might want to research the different steel braided lines, there are different ways to make them. I believe the teflon lined ones are the best in regards to not deteriating(sp?) and giving fuel fume smells that people like to complain about. However they might require a different type of AN fitting than the other lines do.
There is a hose that I have seen a handful of people use on their fuel systems instead of the steel braided lines, it is blue in color and supposed to be a lot easier to assemble the AN fittings onto it.
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I'm using Goodridge product, 200 series hose. I purchased thru Orme Brother . Talk to Jim, he is very helpful.
Email USsales@goodridge.net for a catalogue. There is directions w/pics on how to assemble the hose.
I'm doing the hoses today, and will post how it goes...
I'm using Goodridge product, 200 series hose. I purchased thru Orme Brother . Talk to Jim, he is very helpful.
Email USsales@goodridge.net for a catalogue. There is directions w/pics on how to assemble the hose.
I'm doing the hoses today, and will post how it goes...
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Thanks for the help guys. Jadz, I'll let you go first! :-)
2nd question I forgot to ask. Any good place to have injectors cleaned and measured?
3rd question. WTF are the fittings called on our fuel lines? Are those AN fittings? If so, what is the fittings called on the fuel regulators and dampners? Same thing? On the L-Jet cars, we have that 4 inch piece of rubber hose that connects each fuel injector regulator to the return line. It's held on by a hose clamp. I'd like to use a screw in steel line instead, what kind of fitting is that?
So much to learn.....
2nd question I forgot to ask. Any good place to have injectors cleaned and measured?
3rd question. WTF are the fittings called on our fuel lines? Are those AN fittings? If so, what is the fittings called on the fuel regulators and dampners? Same thing? On the L-Jet cars, we have that 4 inch piece of rubber hose that connects each fuel injector regulator to the return line. It's held on by a hose clamp. I'd like to use a screw in steel line instead, what kind of fitting is that?
So much to learn.....
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Re: Need help with braided steel fuel lines.
Originally posted by Hacker-Pschorr
With that being said, what are the connections called, what size etc... do I need to look for. I know adaptors are made for the US sizes to connect to metric fuel lines. I'd rather do this with pre-made hoses than make my own.
Thanks!
With that being said, what are the connections called, what size etc... do I need to look for. I know adaptors are made for the US sizes to connect to metric fuel lines. I'd rather do this with pre-made hoses than make my own.
Thanks!
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Gretch, man do I now feel like a dumbass. I'm preping my car for the next kit (16V version) and I'm trying to stay ahead of the game. I suppose the fitting should be the same across the board. I totally forgot they are part of the 32V kit.
Guess who's phone number I'm looking for now?
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Goodridge is the company a friend of mine just recently went through for his hoses. I am 99% sure he got some teflon lined hoses through them. I think he got his AN fittings there as well. The fittings specific to something on the 928 are not AN fittings, I do not know what they are called though. The fittings I got from Kinsler were a -8 AN male to what ever metric threading is in those Bosch pumps I have.
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http://www.cruzinperformance.com/fuelinj.html
Had mine done here. no affiliation, prompt reasonable service. I recommend.
Had mine done here. no affiliation, prompt reasonable service. I recommend.
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do you have his number, or do you need it?
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Depends on which fitting you are replacing/mating to. The basic size of the factory lines is *close* to 6AN.
The metric fittings are generally of the 16x1.5mm flavor at least when you hook to regs and dampers. Industrial fittings MAY work, but I have had no luck finding ones that have the correct 'reach' on the metric side. I think Jim Doerr may have found some that work, but I don't think he's fitted them yet. I have some that I DO know work in stock (16x1.5mm x 6AN male).
There are 3(+) different ways to go with fuel/water line:
A: Conventional teflon extrusion tube with S/S braided cover requires the standard Aeroquip-style screw down fittings.
B: Custom hoses fabbed up by your local full-line hydraulic supplier - IF they have the type of hose you want, this is a nice way to go. You will often end up with serious 'overkill' hoses (like 4500 PSI hydraulic stuff). But it will have a certain 'factory' look to it. If you walk in like you have no clue, you will be charged accordingly. If you know what you want, the pricing can be very acceptable.
C: Push lock fittings and hoses. Good to ~250 PSI without any clamps. If you're ****/paranoid (like me) put an Oetiker squeeze clamp on just in case. Lots of different hose styles (like a braided cover in black that looks very stock).
Just depends on what 'look' you're looking for. Any of the above options will be plenty over-rated for any fuel/water pressure app. P/S hydraulic lines run at my higher pressure and do require special hoses. The rest of it is pretty staightforward stuff.
Greg
Depends on which fitting you are replacing/mating to. The basic size of the factory lines is *close* to 6AN.
The metric fittings are generally of the 16x1.5mm flavor at least when you hook to regs and dampers. Industrial fittings MAY work, but I have had no luck finding ones that have the correct 'reach' on the metric side. I think Jim Doerr may have found some that work, but I don't think he's fitted them yet. I have some that I DO know work in stock (16x1.5mm x 6AN male).
There are 3(+) different ways to go with fuel/water line:
A: Conventional teflon extrusion tube with S/S braided cover requires the standard Aeroquip-style screw down fittings.
B: Custom hoses fabbed up by your local full-line hydraulic supplier - IF they have the type of hose you want, this is a nice way to go. You will often end up with serious 'overkill' hoses (like 4500 PSI hydraulic stuff). But it will have a certain 'factory' look to it. If you walk in like you have no clue, you will be charged accordingly. If you know what you want, the pricing can be very acceptable.
C: Push lock fittings and hoses. Good to ~250 PSI without any clamps. If you're ****/paranoid (like me) put an Oetiker squeeze clamp on just in case. Lots of different hose styles (like a braided cover in black that looks very stock).
Just depends on what 'look' you're looking for. Any of the above options will be plenty over-rated for any fuel/water pressure app. P/S hydraulic lines run at my higher pressure and do require special hoses. The rest of it is pretty staightforward stuff.
Greg